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PostSubject: killie Campbell Museum   killie Campbell Museum EmptyTue Oct 27, 2009 11:57 am

I have just managed to get access to the Killi Campbell museum web site. Fantastic collection of photos and documents. I have been trying to get sight of a number of photos for years, finally managed it. The web address is [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Log on and browse for hours.

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PostSubject: killie campbell museum   killie Campbell Museum EmptyTue Oct 27, 2009 12:01 pm

hi springbok9.
Thanks very much for the link , as I have tomorrow off , I know where I'll be :)
cheers 90th.
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PostSubject: Re: killie Campbell Museum   killie Campbell Museum EmptyTue Oct 27, 2009 12:11 pm

Once you have logged in, use the search engine to target 1879. Results will amaze you.

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PostSubject: killie campbell museum   killie Campbell Museum EmptyTue Oct 27, 2009 12:16 pm

hi springbok9.
Are we able to purchase copies of the photos ? . I know its a longshot but you never know. :lol!:
I am certainly looking forward to tomorrow .
cheers 90th.
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PostSubject: Re: killie Campbell Museum   killie Campbell Museum EmptyTue Oct 27, 2009 12:36 pm

You can get permission to reproduce, no charge. Or you can buy hi res digital prints. I have just been scanning through the two 1879 scrap books, fascinating but time consuming better to use the search facility. Interesting comparing the old photos to the newer ones. Fugitives drift from Coghils grave shows no bush at all, now its a virtual forest.
Have fun
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PostSubject: killie campbell museum   killie Campbell Museum EmptyTue Oct 27, 2009 12:46 pm

hi springbok9.
Yes , the amount of vegetation that has grown in some parts of zululand is amazing , and its
only been in the last 50 yrs or so. IAN KNIGHT"S book " THE ZULU WAR THEN AND KNOW "
shows the difference between the places in photos and drawings from the time of the war
till he takes his photos in the same spots , some 120 yrs later !!. One of my most favourite
books on the zulu war. And full of information .
cheers 90th.
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PostSubject: Re: killie Campbell Museum   killie Campbell Museum EmptyTue Oct 27, 2009 2:45 pm

Where is this Museem. ?
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PostSubject: Re: killie Campbell Museum   killie Campbell Museum EmptyTue Oct 27, 2009 3:22 pm

The Campbell museum is in Dundee. It has one of the largest, and best collections of documents photos etc of the history of Kwazulu. That includes the 1879 era. Not to downgrade the Royal Welsh Museum at all but any serious student needs to look through the Killie Campbell.

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PostSubject: Re: killie Campbell Museum   killie Campbell Museum EmptyTue Oct 27, 2009 4:37 pm

In that case I might take a day trip to Dundee. I take it is open to the public.
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PostSubject: Re: killie Campbell Museum   killie Campbell Museum EmptyTue Oct 27, 2009 4:45 pm

OH 2

Yes open to the public. Have a look at the web site first and possibly e mail them to make sure the items you want to see are on display. Would make a good trip.
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PostSubject: Re: killie Campbell Museum   killie Campbell Museum EmptyTue Oct 27, 2009 4:51 pm

The Killie Campbell museum is in Durban on the corner of Marriot (Gladys Mazibuko) and Essenwood (Steven Dlamini_ Roads. It houses the famous collection of Africana that Killie Campbell the daughter of Sam Campbell and Aunt of Roy Campbell collected. It belongs to the University of Kwa-Zulu Natal. The collection does not just focus on the AZW but on Natal and Durban in general.
It is well worth a visit.
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PostSubject: Re: killie Campbell Museum   killie Campbell Museum EmptyTue Oct 27, 2009 5:04 pm

SA I thought you meant Dundee UK
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PostSubject: Re: killie Campbell Museum   killie Campbell Museum EmptyTue Oct 27, 2009 5:37 pm

OH
Do you mean East London as in (The East End the docks and Kray Brothers etc) or East London (Eastern Cape)?
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PostSubject: Re: killie Campbell Museum   killie Campbell Museum EmptyTue Oct 27, 2009 5:55 pm

That's the one. Its the Kray Twins. Not Brothers. Wink Ronney and Reggi and thier brother Charlie
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PostSubject: Re: killie Campbell Museum   killie Campbell Museum EmptyWed Oct 28, 2009 7:35 am

Sorry about the mix up in locations I was thinking about the Talana Museum.
OH2
I was also under the impression you were in the Eastern Cape.
With regard to the Campbell photos, there are some early Fugitive Drift photos and sketches that go a long way towards pointing at the REAL coffin rock. Interesting stuff.

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