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PostSubject: Public Apology   Public Apology EmptyWed Dec 02, 2009 9:28 pm

Just wanted to say how impressed I am with the forum, I got off to a bad start and apologise most sincerely. Looking forward to participating in the very near future?

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E.H. I'm a bit confused are you on the right site.
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PostSubject: Re: Public Apology   Public Apology EmptyWed Dec 02, 2009 10:01 pm

As Elizabeth Hogan as made her apology public. It’s only fair that the members of this forum know the history.

At the early stages of going live with this forum, Elizabeth Hogan made some comments regarding some Zulu War Authors, which were totally unnecessary and unfounded.

Elizabeth Hogan is renowned for her book reviews relating to Victorian wars. Unfortunately the remarks made could have had a devastating consequences to this forum, if the authors in question had sought seek advise relating to slander.

Consequently Elizabeth Hogan was banned from the forum. The banning setting is set to 5 months, there after the member may return if he or she so wishes.

Elizabeth Hogan could have quite easily have e-mail me privately, but she preferred to go public. I’m quite happy for Elizabeth Hogan to continue, but its up to the other members if they choose to enter into discussions with her.
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PostSubject: Re: Public Apology   Public Apology EmptyWed Dec 02, 2009 11:04 pm

I remember it well. I won’t be entering into any discussions with this member. Just wanted to make it clear where I stand.
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hi pete ,

I"m happy to let bygones be bygones 😕 . Not that I know what happened anyway , tis the season
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ps. Forgot to add , welcome back E.H.
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Thank You 90th.
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PostSubject: Re: Public Apology   Public Apology EmptyFri Dec 04, 2009 11:51 pm

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Elizabeth. Where can we find these book reviews.
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PostSubject: Re: Public Apology   Public Apology EmptyMon Dec 07, 2009 1:12 pm

Well I think the more diverse opinions we have on this forum the better.
So I am gald that Elizabeth Hogan has decided to stay and contribute.
I am loooking forward to reading her posts.
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PostSubject: Re: Public Apology   Public Apology EmptyMon Dec 07, 2009 8:34 pm

Can anyone point me to one of Elizabeth's book reviews or post one. I think John as already asked.

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Follow this link and look under Book Reviews and you will find what you are looking for Idea

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PostSubject: Re: Public Apology   Public Apology EmptyMon Dec 07, 2009 9:33 pm

Thanks 1879Graves. But I think one has to register, its asking for a user name and password.

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PostSubject: Re: Public Apology   Public Apology EmptyMon Dec 07, 2009 9:54 pm

One of Elizabeth Hogan's reviews. Very Good knows her subject.


Review By : Elizabeth Hogan

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SISTER JANET Zulu War Nurse

After the late Florence Nightingale, Sister Janet, as Mrs King was known, takes the premier place among the Red Cross nurses. Obituary of Mrs Janet King - The Chronicle - 1911.

"The profession of nursing, as we know it today, is relatively new. During the early 1870’s the concept of young women of good background becoming nurses became more socially acceptable and so training hospitals and the Red Cross began to attract a growing number of dedicated unattached women to nursing. For the first time, women felt they could gain fulfilment by doing something that was both feminine and worthwhile. However, the strict training, based on Florence Nightingale’s system of cleanliness and scrupulous attention to hygiene, discouraged those who had a woolly or sentimental concept of what nursing was about. Nurses’ conditions were austere; working hours long and their training was rigorous and impartial. The early life of this remarkable young nurse is inextricably bound up with a number of vicious wars that raged across Europe as well as with the protracted development and establishment of the Red Cross, these are briefly discussed in the context of the life one of these fledgling nurses, Janet Wells.

After only a short period of training, Janet Wells, aged only eighteen, was to undergo a remarkably tough baptism of fire, firstly in the Balkans and then in Zululand, from which she would emerge as one of the nursing heroines of the late Victorian era. Like other young ladies of her class,

Janet Wells kept a scrapbook of newspaper clippings, photographs, sketches and pressed flowers, which chronicled her life on the battlefields like an illustrated diary. What emerges from the pages of her records and other contemporary material is the life of a young woman whose bravery, stamina and dedication to nursing were readily recognised by her peers and who, at the end of her all-too-short life, was hailed as an early nursing heroine alongside Florence Nightingale. During her nursing career, in which she saw action in two major wars whilst still a teenager, she would undertake major surgery, care for thousands of wounded, fall in love, and yet retain her gaiety, charm and her high personal level of professionalism. She would mix with soldiers, generals and royalty with equal ease. She became known as an ‘angel of mercy’ by many whose lives she saved. Hers is a story as unusual as it is dramatic.

Janet was born in 1859 at Shepherd’s Bush, London, to a noted musician and his wife, Benjamin and Elizabeth Wells. She was the second child of five daughters and three sons. During her childhood the family moved to Islington. In November 1876, aged seventeen years, she entered the fledgling profession of nursing by joining the Evangelical Protestant Deaconess’ Institution and Training Hospital as a trainee nurse. On qualifying, she was immediately sent to the Balkans to assist the Russian army medical teams in the 1877/8 Russo-Turkish War. In the depths of a bitterly cold Russian winter she was thrust into an appallingly cruel war and required to treat many thousands of seriously wounded soldiers – frequently on her own and with scant medical backup or resources. In early 1879 she returned to England but was immediately requested to go to South Africa. Alone, she was sent more than 200 miles across wild and unpopulated bush to take control of the most distant British army medical post at Utrecht in Zululand where she cared for sick and injured soldiers from the savage Anglo Zulu War.

Following the peace declaration, she visited many of the famous battlefields, including Rorke’s Drift and Isandlwana, where she administered medical care to the remaining British garrison. She also met and treated King Cetshwayo, then a prisoner of the British at Capetown. On 28th October 1879 she departed from Capetown for for the return journey to England; her intention was to resume her nursing career. She was not yet twenty years old.

In 1880 she met Mr George King, an up-and-coming young London journalist who was soon to become the distinguished editor of the Globe magazine and founder of Tatler. They married in May 1882 and subsequently had two daughters, Elsie and Daisy. Janet was widely recognized for her dedication to nursing; she received the Russian Imperial Order of the Red Cross for assisting the Russian army in the Balkans, the South Africa Campaign medal for her participation in the Anglo Zulu War and in 1883, by Queen Victoria’s command, she and Florence Nightingale were the very first recipients awarded the decoration of the Royal Red Cross for ‘the special devotion and competency which you have displayed in your nursing duties with Her Majesty’s Troops’. At the time, the Royal Red Cross was regarded as the nursing equivalent of the military and naval Victoria Cross. In 1901, Queen Victoria died and Janet King RRC was invited to the state funeral. Janet died of cancer on 6th June 1911 at the age of fifty-three. Hers is an astonishing story, of bravery and determination, which I commend to everyone who loves an adventure; it will especially fascinate students of the Anglo Zulu War Sister Janet Zulu War Nurse "
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PostSubject: Re: Public Apology   Public Apology EmptyMon Dec 07, 2009 11:07 pm

I just wanted to take a moment to say thank you all for welcoming me to the group. And especially for being nice...there's a lot of forums where newcomers aren't welcome or an alpha has been declared and abusing those not "in" is considered required.

I’m hoping I can contribute plenty of worthwhile conversation here, and I love to see the development process anyway.

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PostSubject: Re: Public Apology   Public Apology EmptyTue Dec 08, 2009 4:25 am

Elizabeth Hogan wrote:
I just wanted to take a moment to say thank you all for welcoming me to the group. And especially for being nice...there's a lot of forums where newcomers aren't welcome or an alpha has been declared and abusing those not "in" is considered required.

I’m hoping I can contribute plenty of worthwhile conversation here, and I love to see the development process anyway.

E.H.

Mr Harman created this forum with the express purpose of avoiding that sort of behaviour.
As I have said before open and honest debate is to be welcomed.
So it is good to have you on board.
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