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The old historic Hely family. Frederic Augustus Hely, whose wife lies in the Paddington cemetery, was the first Superintendent in Chief of convicts in Sydney. He died in 1835, and was buried in a vault in his own orchard at Gosford, Broken Bay.

His wife was Georgina Lindsey Bucknell. One of their sons was Hovenden Hely, the explorer, who was out with Leichhardt in 1846, and went to search for him in 1852. One son was Henry Lindsey Hely, a barrister, who became a Queensland District Court judge.

One daughter married the late W. L. G. Drew, then a paymaster in the Fleet. He came to Queensland, joined the Civil Service, and his last position was Chairman of the Civil Service Board.

Another Hely girl married Edward Strickland, a major in the Royal Artillery, and afterwards Sir Edward Strickland, Commissary- General, who served in the Zulu War of 1878.

Any information on this fellow welcome.
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PostSubject: Edward Strickland   The old historic Hely family EmptyWed Feb 10, 2010 1:20 am

hi dave .
This from " EYEWITNESS IN ZULULAND " by Ian Bennett.

Edward Strickland came from an ancient family of English Knights , Strickland of Sizergh Castle , Westmoreland,
one of whom bore the banner of ST. George at the battle of Agincourt. Born in 1821 , he joined the commissariat
in 1838 , subsequently serving in Canada , Australia , Tasmania , New Zealand , Malta , The Crimea , Greece,
Barbados and Sth Africa . retiring in 1881 after 43 yrs service . Already on special service in Turkey , at the outbreak
of the crimean war he became Snr Commissariat Officer in the division commanded by the Duke of Cambridge . In 67
he was awarded the CB for distinguished service in the field during the New Zealand wars . As commissary General in
Sth Africa he had to overcome enormous transport and supply problems in the face of criticism and interference from
both political and military sources . However his services were rewarded with a Knighthood , KCB in june 79. He died
aged 68 at Sydney Australia on 18th july 1889. page 47.
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STRICKLAND, Sir EDWARD (1821-1889), army officer, was born on 7 August 1821 at Loughglynn House, County Roscommon, Ireland, third son of Jarrard Edward Strickland (1782-1844) of the East India Co., and his wife Anne, née Cholmley; he was the uncle of Sir Gerald Strickland, first and last Baron Strickland of Sizergh Castle, Kendal, Westmorland, England. Educated at Stonyhurst College, Lancashire, he joined the Commissariat Department on 15 February 1838 as a clerk and served in Canada in 1838-39. From January 1840 to December 1841 he was stationed in New South Wales; on 26 December 1840 he was promoted to deputy assistant commissary general; in 1842-44 he served in Van Diemen's Land, and in 1844-60 in Malta, Turkey, Greece and the Middle East. In the Crimean war he received the Crimean medal with clasp and the Turkish medal. In 1860 he wrote Note on the Reorganization of the British Army (London) in which he urged certain reforms including the creation of a military board and the post of chief of staff. After acting as the British member of the Joint Financial Commission of Enquiry on Greece he published Greece: Its Condition, Prospects, and Resources (London, 1863).
Appointed deputy commissary general, ranking with colonel, on 8 September 1861, Strickland was in Melbourne in 1863-64 and in New Zealand in 1864-67. In the Maori war he received the New Zealand medal and was made a C.B. After service in Nova Scotia he was in Malta in 1874-76 and the Cape of Good Hope in 1877-79. He was appointed K.C.B. for his service at the Cape and Natal during the Zulu wars. Promoted commissary-general, ranking with major-general, on 23 November 1878, he served in Ireland as senior commissariat officer in 1880-81 until he retired on 8 August.
Strickland went to live in Sydney where he published, among other papers, Lecture on our South African Colonies (1882) and Letters Embodying Suggestions for a Volunteer Force in New South Wales (1883) in which he advocated 'an Australian Wimbledon' modelled on the ancient Olympic Games. In a letter to the Sydney Morning Herald on 12 February 1885 he suggested sending a contingent to the Sudan. An intimate of William Bede Dalley, in 1884 he had presented to Governor Loftus the thanks of Sydney Catholics for inviting Archbishop Patrick Moran to Government House. Elected a fellow of the Royal Geographic Society of London in 1860, he was vice-president of the Geographical Society of Australasia, a founder and president of the society's New South Wales branch, president of the Australian Geographical Conference in 1884 and vice-president of the Australasian Association for the Advancement of Science. He helped promote Captain H. C. Everill's expedition to New Guinea in 1885. He died in Sydney on 18 July 1889 and was buried in the Catholic section of Gore Hill cemetery.
Strickland was twice married. First, on 18 November 1841 at St Mary's Cathedral and then at St James's, Sydney, to Georgina Frances (d.1876), second daughter of F. A. Hely; second, on 29 January 1877 at The Oratory, London, to Frances Mary, only daughter of General John Tattan Brown-Grieve of Orde House, Northumberland. His only child, Fanny Cecelia (1844-1922), married Rev. Percival Fiennis Swann, rector of Brandsby, Yorkshire. The Strickland River in New Guinea is named after him.

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Between the highway and the hospital, behind a privet-bent wire fence, lies the Gore Hill Memorial Cemetery. Driving down the Pacific Highway to Crows Nest, past the derelict buildings of the Australian Broadcasting Commission's former headquarters, the cemetery is all but invisible. Parts of it, near the Royal North Shore Hospital, are maintained. But most of it is in splendid decay. Gravestones recording the deaths of young women in childbirth, the children themselves, and young men caught by disease or war, lie at ricketty angles uplifted by woody weeds and even trees. Some of Australia's heroes lie here, or once did, but who would know? If ever there was a cemetery of ghosts, this is it. Australians try hard to forget their history. At Gore Hill, they have to large part succeeded.
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PostSubject: Edward Strickland   The old historic Hely family EmptyWed Feb 10, 2010 7:44 am

hi dave.
Not sure if you can read " Eyewitness in Zululand " by Ian Bennett online but if you can these
pages have references to Strickland . page 47 - 64 , 115 , 119 , 130 , 175 - 178 . Hope this helps
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"Strickland, Sir Edward (1821–1889)

by G. P. Walsh

Sir Edward Strickland (1821-1889), army officer, was born on 7 August 1821 at Loughglynn House, County Roscommon, Ireland, third son of Jarrard Edward Strickland (1782-1844) of the East India Co., and his wife Anne, née Cholmley; he was the uncle of Sir Gerald Strickland, first and last Baron Strickland of Sizergh Castle, Kendal, Westmorland, England. Educated at Stonyhurst College, Lancashire, he joined the Commissariat Department on 15 February 1838 as a clerk and served in Canada in 1838-39. From January 1840 to December 1841 he was stationed in New South Wales; on 26 December 1840 he was promoted to deputy assistant commissary general; in 1842-44 he served in Van Diemen's Land, and in 1844-60 in Malta, Turkey, Greece and the Middle East. In the Crimean war he received the Crimean medal with clasp and the Turkish medal. In 1860 he wrote Note on the Reorganization of the British Army (London) in which he urged certain reforms including the creation of a military board and the post of chief of staff. After acting as the British member of the Joint Financial Commission of Enquiry on Greece he published Greece: Its Condition, Prospects, and Resources (London, 1863).

Appointed deputy commissary general, ranking with colonel, on 8 September 1861, Strickland was in Melbourne in 1863-64 and in New Zealand in 1864-67. In the Maori war he received the New Zealand medal and was made a C.B. After service in Nova Scotia he was in Malta in 1874-76 and the Cape of Good Hope in 1877-79. He was appointed K.C.B. for his service at the Cape and Natal during the Zulu wars. Promoted commissary-general, ranking with major-general, on 23 November 1878, he served in Ireland as senior commissariat officer in 1880-81 until he retired on 8 August.

Strickland went to live in Sydney where he published, among other papers, Lecture on our South African Colonies (1882) and Letters Embodying Suggestions for a Volunteer Force in New South Wales (1883) in which he advocated 'an Australian Wimbledon' modelled on the ancient Olympic Games. In a letter to the Sydney Morning Herald on 12 February 1885 he suggested sending a contingent to the Sudan. An intimate of William Bede Dalley, in 1884 he had presented to Governor Loftus the thanks of Sydney Catholics for inviting Archbishop Patrick Moran to Government House. Elected a fellow of the Royal Geographic Society of London in 1860, he was vice-president of the Geographical Society of Australasia, a founder and president of the society's New South Wales branch, president of the Australian Geographical Conference in 1884 and vice-president of the Australasian Association for the Advancement of Science. He helped promote Captain H. C. Everill's expedition to New Guinea in 1885. He died in Sydney on 18 July 1889 and was buried in the Catholic section of Gore Hill cemetery.

Strickland was twice married. First, on 18 November 1841 at St Mary's Cathedral and then at St James's, Sydney, to Georgina Frances (d.1876), second daughter of F. A. Hely; second, on 29 January 1877 at The Oratory, London, to Frances Mary, only daughter of General John Tattan Brown-Grieve of Orde House, Northumberland. His only child, Fanny Cecelia (1844-1922), married Rev. Percival Fiennis Swann, rector of Brandsby, Yorkshire. The Strickland River in New Guinea is named after him."

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PHOTOGRAPH SHOWING EDWARD STRICKLAND, THEN DEPUTY COMMISSARY GENERAL, WHILE IN CANADA CIRCA 1868; THE IMAGE WAS MADE BY W. CHASE AT HALIFAX IN NOVA SCOTIA.
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Sir Edward Strickland, circa December 1879, having received his K.C.B.
John Young Collection.

Unfortunately, the photograph is ink-splashed and damaged at an essential place as the jewel of his order is missing.

The clue as to the date is the fact Strickland is wearing a General Officers’ Mameluke sword, he was promoted to Commissary-General ranked as a Major-General for his Zulu War services.  The photograph was taken in Dublin, so could now be dated 1880-1.

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Yesterday I was at Sizergh Castle, Westmorland the home of the Stricklands. Interestingly, hanging on the wall of the entrance hall is a collection of Zulu assegais and two Zulu shields (one brown and white, the other black and white).
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John
Are you sure that the photo's original attribution isn't correct?
Isn't he wearing a C.B? He received one in 1867. The K.C.B came in 1879.
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Julian,

My photograph isn’t showing, I assume it was on the old photo-hosting site.

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Vanished! I'm sure you were right.
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Julian,

Now replaced and details further updated.

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Brilliant. Thank you john. I love the Mameluke sword. The head and shoulders in this photo was used as the basis for a pen and ink sketch in his obituary 1889. I'll forward it to you so you can 'complete the picture'.

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Julian,

Thanks for that, I already have the engraving in my collection.

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Strickland was actually born on 7th August 1820 not 1821. Many books / websites give the wrong year.
Burke's Landed Gentry gives the correct year and the inscription on Strickland's memorial stone clearly states he died aged 69 in 1889.
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