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PostSubject: Robert Hope Book.   Robert Hope Book. EmptyWed May 12, 2010 3:34 am

hi all .
This is good value at the moment , lots of facts and figures and very informative of one of the lesser
known Regt's of the zulu war .

http://cgi.ebay.com/ZULU-WAR-BOOK-ZULU-WAR-80th-REGT-EXTREMELY-SCARCE-/230472676909?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Non_Fiction&hash=item35a93df62d
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PostSubject: Re: Robert Hope Book.   Robert Hope Book. EmptyWed May 12, 2010 10:43 pm

I have been looking for a review on this book. Can anyone direct me to one.
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PostSubject: Robert Hope Book   Robert Hope Book. EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 8:53 am

If you have not yet found a copy of this book, then the Regimental Museum of the South Staffs at Whittington, Lichfield, normally has a few copies to sell. failing that try Amazon.
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PostSubject: Re: Robert Hope Book.   Robert Hope Book. EmptyThu Jul 01, 2010 7:22 am

Myer's Drifter. I had a quick scout through thier web-site not showing book at present.

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PostSubject: Re: Robert Hope Book.   Robert Hope Book. EmptyThu Jul 01, 2010 6:03 pm

Mr G
Have you tried phoning the Regimental Museum ?
By the way which Robert Hope book did you mean ? I have 3 different publications by Hope.
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PostSubject: Re: Robert Hope Book.   Robert Hope Book. EmptyThu Jul 01, 2010 9:08 pm

A Staffordshire Regiment in the Zulu and Zekukuni Campaigns
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Colours, Battle Honours and Medals of a Staffordshire Regiment - 80th Regiment of Foot
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A Staffordshire Regiment in The Crimea 38th Regiment of Foot
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PostSubject: Robert Hope Book.   Robert Hope Book. EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 6:52 am

hi all.
Found this , hopefully it helps.

http://www.bookfinder4u.com/IsbnSearch.aspx?isbn=1904546080&mode=direct

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That's a useful website, 90th - thanks for that.
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PostSubject: Robert Hope Book.   Robert Hope Book. EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 4:28 pm

hi myer's drifter.
Yes it is a useful site , I have used it many times . Idea
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PostSubject: Re: Robert Hope Book.   Robert Hope Book. EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 5:08 pm

Hi 90th
A splendid source of reference, especially if you collect medals to 80th!!
However, I'd take issue with you over your comment " one of the lesser
known Regt's of the zulu war " - the 80th were in South Africa the longest time from 1877 -1880, and admired by Chelmsford!
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PostSubject: Re: Robert Hope Book.   Robert Hope Book. EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 11:06 pm

Just out of Interest. The good lord Chelmsford’s friend Wolseley transferred to the 80th Regiment of Foot. in 1852. Not a lot of people know that !!!
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PostSubject: Re: Robert Hope Book.   Robert Hope Book. EmptySat Jul 03, 2010 12:12 am

Correct. In March 1852.
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PostSubject: Robert Hope Book.   Robert Hope Book. EmptySat Jul 03, 2010 1:47 am

hi Myer's Drifter.
Let me explain , ' Lesser known regiment of the zulu war ' is not meant as a derogatory comment , I am merely wishing to point
out that many new members on this forum more than likely have never heard of them , due to the popularity of the 24 th Regt's
in the two most famous battles . I for one didnt know of them until I started to become interested in the war . Idea
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PostSubject: Re: Robert Hope Book.   Robert Hope Book. EmptySat Jul 03, 2010 10:15 am

Hi 90th
Thanks for that - I understand what you're saying and applaud your intentions. I do think it important that those of us who know anything about the Zulu War help others who have recently become interested, and attempt to rectify the often misinformed notions promulgated by such films as 'Zulu', and 'Zulu Dawn', and certain writers on the subject!! The one that sticks in my throat is the belief tha the 2nd Battalion,the 24th (2nd Wawickshire) Regiment at Rorke's Drift were all Welshmen of the South Wales Borderers (24th)!! Technically the regimental name change did not occur until the 1880s after the Cardwell/ Childers Army Reforms, and of the 11 VCs won at Rorke's Drift only 2 recipients were Welsh !!
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PostSubject: Robert Hope Book.   Robert Hope Book. EmptySat Jul 03, 2010 11:23 am

hi Myer's Drifter.
I agree totally there are some blunders out there that people tend to think as Gospel , the Welsh myth is one .
South Wales Borderer's is another , the name change , part of the Cardwell reforms took place in 1881 , I think !.
The ammunition debate ( Isandlwana ) is another favourite , but we have covered that in depth previously on here .
There are many more and hopefully this forum and the RDVC Forum are setting the record straight , or straighter
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