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PostSubject: Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves   Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves EmptyWed May 19, 2010 9:01 pm

We seem to be getting quite a large collection of Graves; I don’t know how members find these. I have spent hour looking for graves but can never find one that has not already been found. I believe we now have in the region of 200 Graves on the forum. Can anyone give tips on how one goes about looking for graves that have not already been found? Is there a list anywhere, which gives the names of those that, took part or died in the Zulu War that have never been discovered. Hope this makes sense.
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PostSubject: Re: Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves   Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves EmptyWed May 19, 2010 9:09 pm

Littlehand.
It really down to those members that take the time to research the locations of the graves and then take the time to visit and photograph. Credit for the Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves goes to 1879Graves. Who has you know has added a huge amount of material to the forum? So any guidance from 1879Graves should put you on the right track.
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PostSubject: Re: Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves   Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves EmptyWed May 19, 2010 9:18 pm

Echo that Admin.
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"Credit for the Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves goes to 1879Graves."
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PostSubject: Re: Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves   Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves EmptyWed May 19, 2010 9:22 pm

I know that.

The latest Photo added would that be the same Tim Needham who was responsible for the (Re-dedication Thomas Dawe Event )
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PostSubject: Re: Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves   Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves EmptyWed May 19, 2010 9:24 pm

You mean photo's.

Yes the very same. Idea
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PostSubject: Re: Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves   Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves EmptyThu May 20, 2010 8:26 am

Hi All,
The vast majority of the photos of graves and memorials on this sight come from the research of the Keynshamlighthorse, graves1879 is a junior member of the team having pooled his own research and been present on one field trip. Unfortunately our site is offline at present but contains over 1200 photos of memorials and graves.
The guestion was asked how do you find them, the answer to that is a bloodly lot of hard work.
You try and use as many sources as you can, books giving genealogical data ie N Holmes book on the 24th, Many officers appear in books on famous people ie websters, Debretts, The Army List can give a date of death and sometimes a place but that might not mean he is buried there. If and when you find a date of death you can look this up on the internet sight freebmd this lists births marriages and deaths since 1837 but is not complete also very good in doing your own family research. As more records come online research has become slightly easier. census records will give you the birth dates and places of soldiers and officers but remember they lied about there ages. Many enlisted men would return home to live.
Monumental Inscriptions most County records office will have a list of MIs for the local area so if you know that soldier X died in village Y the MIs might list it but only if there is a headstone, and usually these offices WILL NOT HOLD THE RECORDS TO THE LOCAL CEMETERY, in most larger towns the cemetery books could be in a number of different places the council office, at the cemetery or the main cemetery usually the one still in use. Some places will charge for there service if you are lucky you might be able to look yourself.
In the end it might come down to a small bit of information a place name where he was born/lived/died and you visit the place and a walk through the local graveyard in an attempt to find him this is not always successful but you can always pick up something you was not expecting.
The three main members of the KLH myself Rai 'the Major' England, Tim ' the Colonel' Day and Ian 'Woody aka the Adj' Wooderson would pool our research when we had enough leads in a certain area we would have a road trip visiting the area over a number of days of hard driving, good conversation and a few beers at night.
As i have already stated 1200 memorials are on our sight, i would think we know where probably the same amount of memorials are, but these are throughout the world and not just at home in the UK, such places as Grave Island Zanzibar, Australia, USA, Ecaudor, Italy, India and Pakistan and of course South Africa to name a few places. Scotland is a prime location for searching.
Any advice anyone needs just send me a message, please remember we have researched many names but even our research does not cover everyone, the 24th and the Rorke's Drift men are well covered in books already.
Finally many enlisted men will not have marked graves, and not every officer especially if they had no next of kin.
All the Best and Happy Hunting
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PostSubject: Re: Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves   Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves EmptyThu May 20, 2010 2:05 pm

Hi All,
Another primery source i forgot are newspaper births marriages and deaths, look out for addresses and of course burial details, the death of a wife could lead to the person you want being buried in the same place..
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PostSubject: Re: Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves   Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves EmptyThu May 20, 2010 2:25 pm

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Unfortunately our site is offline at present but contains over 1200 photos of memorials and graves.

Is it possible to view the graves on another link.
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PostSubject: Re: Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves   Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves EmptyFri May 21, 2010 9:06 pm

Still growing I see. Excellent. Lots of research needed about these chaps.
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PostSubject: Re: Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves   Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves EmptySun May 23, 2010 11:13 pm

Great Photo's. Big thank you to Tim Needham for providing and Admin for posting. Idea
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PostSubject: Re: Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves   Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves EmptyMon May 24, 2010 9:04 pm

Well said 24th. Idea

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PostSubject: Re: Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves   Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves EmptyMon May 24, 2010 9:23 pm

As others have said, Well done both Tim and Pete for their hard work posting the new photos!

thanks joe
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PostSubject: Re: Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves   Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves EmptyMon May 24, 2010 9:48 pm

Thanks for the comments. I will let Tim know. Thanks to Graves1879 for his endless knowledge on locations, and a special Thankyou to Keynshamlighthorse, without them most of these photos would not be available.
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PostSubject: pictorial catalogue of azw graves   Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves EmptyTue May 25, 2010 6:39 am

hi all.
Well done to pete , tim and all the others who are helping to make this site well worth a visit.
cheers 90th.
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