WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM

Film Zulu quote: Reverend Otto Witt: One thousand British soldiers have been massacred. While I stood here talking peace, a war has started.
 
HomeHome  GalleryGallery  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
» Regimental numbers
Recoil MH or 303 EmptyToday at 12:55 pm by Frank Allewell

» Lance Corporal Robert Eaton NMP
Recoil MH or 303 EmptyToday at 11:25 am by Frank Allewell

» Isandlwana, Last Stands
Recoil MH or 303 EmptyToday at 9:13 am by Julian Whybra

» Colour of Lord Chelsmford eyes
Recoil MH or 303 EmptyToday at 8:05 am by Simonsole

» William De Passey, 17th Lancers.1879.
Recoil MH or 303 EmptyMon Sep 21, 2020 1:20 pm by Frank Allewell

» List of identified bodies at Isandlwana
Recoil MH or 303 EmptyThu Sep 17, 2020 5:30 am by John Young

» Defenders of Rorkes Drift
Recoil MH or 303 EmptyWed Sep 16, 2020 6:47 pm by Digger

» Colour Sgt Anthony Clark Booth, VC.
Recoil MH or 303 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2020 6:47 pm by ADMIN

» Cpl John Lyons
Recoil MH or 303 EmptyMon Sep 14, 2020 7:49 pm by Bill8183

» A Case of Mistaken Identity?
Recoil MH or 303 EmptyMon Sep 14, 2020 11:29 am by John Young

» What happened next
Recoil MH or 303 EmptyMon Sep 14, 2020 10:51 am by Springbok

» Surgeon Espine Charles Ward
Recoil MH or 303 EmptyWed Sep 09, 2020 9:38 am by John Young

» 2nd Lieutenant William Lancelot James, 2nd/4th Regiment.
Recoil MH or 303 EmptyMon Sep 07, 2020 2:41 pm by ADMIN

» Explaining Amabutho in one word??
Recoil MH or 303 EmptyMon Sep 07, 2020 11:49 am by SRB1965

» Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines
Recoil MH or 303 EmptyThu Sep 03, 2020 4:05 pm by Frank Allewell

» Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Artillery
Recoil MH or 303 EmptyWed Sep 02, 2020 8:01 pm by Catiline63

» Colonel William,Egerton Saunders, C.B
Recoil MH or 303 EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 10:46 pm by ADMIN

» Lieutenant-Colonel David Campbell Williamson.
Recoil MH or 303 EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 10:32 pm by ADMIN

» Brigade Surgeon E. J. Boulton
Recoil MH or 303 EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 10:02 pm by ADMIN

» Joseph Walter O’Malley Martin. Assistant Surgeon
Recoil MH or 303 EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 9:52 pm by ADMIN

» Quarter-Master William London
Recoil MH or 303 EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 9:32 pm by ADMIN

» Surgeon Major Henry Lamb
Recoil MH or 303 EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 9:19 pm by ADMIN

» Lieutenant Robert Thomas Graves Lowry
Recoil MH or 303 EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 9:13 pm by ADMIN

» Sgt. John Philip Archbell NNC
Recoil MH or 303 EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 8:43 pm by ADMIN

» Tpr. John Ross Natal Carbineer
Recoil MH or 303 EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 8:27 pm by ADMIN

» Non-Combat Casualties in Colonial and Native Units
Recoil MH or 303 EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 11:52 am by Julian Whybra

» Victorian HMS SHAH South Africa Zulu Wars Medal William Morrison Royal Navy
Recoil MH or 303 EmptyFri Aug 28, 2020 5:50 pm by Petty Officer Tom

» South African 1879 Zulu War medal to Corp R Starkey 57th Regiment of Foot
Recoil MH or 303 EmptyFri Aug 28, 2020 3:50 pm by 1879graves

» 2/4th Foot at Hlobane/Kambula
Recoil MH or 303 EmptyFri Aug 28, 2020 4:12 am by 90th

» England's Sons 9th edition
Recoil MH or 303 EmptyWed Aug 26, 2020 6:20 pm by Herbie

» Strange tales from Isandlwana
Recoil MH or 303 EmptySun Aug 23, 2020 4:25 pm by SRB1965

» Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin
Recoil MH or 303 EmptySat Aug 22, 2020 5:48 pm by Visitor

» Militaria Sale
Recoil MH or 303 EmptyTue Aug 18, 2020 5:59 pm by Frank Allewell

» Men of the 24th Regiment of Foot - Secunderabad, India 1873
Recoil MH or 303 EmptyTue Aug 18, 2020 12:48 am by 90th

» Malicious website
Recoil MH or 303 EmptySun Aug 16, 2020 9:06 pm by ADMIN

Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
Black as Hell, Thick as Grass
Top posters
90th
Recoil MH or 303 Bar_leftRecoil MH or 303 BarRecoil MH or 303 Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
Recoil MH or 303 Bar_leftRecoil MH or 303 BarRecoil MH or 303 Bar_right 
littlehand
Recoil MH or 303 Bar_leftRecoil MH or 303 BarRecoil MH or 303 Bar_right 
ADMIN
Recoil MH or 303 Bar_leftRecoil MH or 303 BarRecoil MH or 303 Bar_right 
1879graves
Recoil MH or 303 Bar_leftRecoil MH or 303 BarRecoil MH or 303 Bar_right 
rusteze
Recoil MH or 303 Bar_leftRecoil MH or 303 BarRecoil MH or 303 Bar_right 
Chelmsfordthescapegoat
Recoil MH or 303 Bar_leftRecoil MH or 303 BarRecoil MH or 303 Bar_right 
John
Recoil MH or 303 Bar_leftRecoil MH or 303 BarRecoil MH or 303 Bar_right 
Mr M. Cooper
Recoil MH or 303 Bar_leftRecoil MH or 303 BarRecoil MH or 303 Bar_right 
Julian Whybra
Recoil MH or 303 Bar_leftRecoil MH or 303 BarRecoil MH or 303 Bar_right 
Top posting users this month
John Young
Recoil MH or 303 Bar_leftRecoil MH or 303 BarRecoil MH or 303 Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
Recoil MH or 303 Bar_leftRecoil MH or 303 BarRecoil MH or 303 Bar_right 
De Passey
Recoil MH or 303 Bar_leftRecoil MH or 303 BarRecoil MH or 303 Bar_right 
90th
Recoil MH or 303 Bar_leftRecoil MH or 303 BarRecoil MH or 303 Bar_right 
ADMIN
Recoil MH or 303 Bar_leftRecoil MH or 303 BarRecoil MH or 303 Bar_right 
1879graves
Recoil MH or 303 Bar_leftRecoil MH or 303 BarRecoil MH or 303 Bar_right 
Kenny
Recoil MH or 303 Bar_leftRecoil MH or 303 BarRecoil MH or 303 Bar_right 
SRB1965
Recoil MH or 303 Bar_leftRecoil MH or 303 BarRecoil MH or 303 Bar_right 
Simonsole
Recoil MH or 303 Bar_leftRecoil MH or 303 BarRecoil MH or 303 Bar_right 
Digger
Recoil MH or 303 Bar_leftRecoil MH or 303 BarRecoil MH or 303 Bar_right 
Most active topics
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Durnford was he capable.1
Durnford was he capable. 4
Durnford was he capable.5
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The ammunition question
Durnford was he capable. 3
Durnford was he capable.2
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Most Viewed Topics
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Adding to the Library
The ammunition question
Recent Members To The ZULU WAR 1879 Discussion & Reference Forum ( A Small Victorian War in 1879)
ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS
Durnford was he capable.5
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Lieutenant Adendorff 1-3 N.N.C.
Fair Use Notice
Fair use notice. This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner. We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website. If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution.
Keywords
Durnford john martini taylor gardner drift smith horse payne harford Prince Russell william henry Mounted Natal melvill George zulu Police Woolfryes 24th spalding Franklin Isandlwana james

 

 Recoil MH or 303

Go down 
AuthorMessage
impi

impi

Posts : 2308
Join date : 2010-07-02
Age : 40

Recoil MH or 303 Empty
PostSubject: Recoil MH or 303   Recoil MH or 303 EmptyWed Dec 08, 2010 9:56 pm

Just a quick question. Which produces the most re-coil. The MH or 303. I think it’s the M.H
Back to top Go down
Neil Aspinshaw

Neil Aspinshaw

Posts : 552
Join date : 2009-10-14
Location : Loughborough

Recoil MH or 303 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Recoil MH or 303   Recoil MH or 303 EmptyThu Dec 09, 2010 8:28 am

Impi
Not much in it, the .303 is a 2300 fps high velocity "crack", whilst the M-H is a 1320 fps "whumph", Paper patched rounds actually make the M-H quite a pleasant round to shoot, compared to modern big oversize cast bullets. The original buller was about pure lead and 12% tin, diameter was .451 which is just over bore size of .450", once wrapped in 100% cotton fibre paper it went to .459", the rifleing picking up the paper, not metal/metal, the paper too was dipped into beeswax, to serve two purposes, waterproofing and lubricaton.

With a full load and patched bullet I would expect to fire 30-40+ rounds at the range on a morning, in a shirt no problem.

Fouling and leading will cause a modicum of increase in recoil, however a properly patched and lubricated round will scrub fouling away each round (that's what it was designed to do), In a .303 this is not an issue as the powder burn is almost complete, the .303 bullet is metal jacketed, firstly in cupro-nickle, later copper, there is no lead fouling. The reason why it is copper jacketed is a) lubrication (soft), b) it stops the lead bullet breaking up in mid flight due the huge centrifugal forces.

A M-H carbine, with the correct 70 grain load and 420 grain patched bullet is a bit more jumpy, however compare this to a No5 .303 Jungle Carbine, and that old boy I can assure you is a beast, even with a soft rubberised buttpad, 50 years on and theose buttpads are have now lost thier cushion, and it shakes yer filling loose.

I can liken a M-H to a 12 bore shotgun.
Back to top Go down
http://www.martinihenry.org
littlehand

littlehand

Posts : 7086
Join date : 2009-04-24
Age : 52
Location : Down South.

Recoil MH or 303 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Recoil MH or 303   Recoil MH or 303 EmptyThu Dec 09, 2010 3:10 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Not sure I believe this. But if is true, I wonder what the shoulders of the defenders at R.D looked like.
Back to top Go down
John

John

Posts : 2558
Join date : 2009-04-06
Age : 58
Location : UK

Recoil MH or 303 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Recoil MH or 303   Recoil MH or 303 EmptyThu Dec 09, 2010 4:43 pm

Surly you wouldn't fire it if it slipped on to your bicep. Your suppose to fire from the shoulder.
Back to top Go down
littlehand

littlehand

Posts : 7086
Join date : 2009-04-24
Age : 52
Location : Down South.

Recoil MH or 303 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Recoil MH or 303   Recoil MH or 303 EmptyThu Dec 09, 2010 4:59 pm

The Man-Eaters Of Tsavo.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Page 100

303 and the MH. Its appears the MH had more stopping power than a 303. Even after be shot 5 times with a 303, he had to finshed the Lion off with a M.H.
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content




Recoil MH or 303 Empty
PostSubject: Re: Recoil MH or 303   Recoil MH or 303 Empty

Back to top Go down
 
Recoil MH or 303
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM  :: GENERAL DISCUSSION AREA-
Jump to: