Film Zulu: Colour Sergeant Bourne: It's a miracle. Lieutenant John Chard: If it's a miracle, Colour Sergeant, it's a short chamber Boxer Henry point 45 caliber miracle. Colour Sergeant Bourne: And a bayonet, sir, with some guts behind it.
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Subject: Permission to wear Zulu War Medal. Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:12 pm
If someone's ancestor had fought in the Zulu War and he/she was attending a Zulu War Ceremony i.e. (Rededication) is permission required from the War-Department / Queen to wear their ancestor medal in honour of them on that day.
littlehand
Posts : 7077 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 54 Location : Down South.
Subject: Re: Permission to wear Zulu War Medal. Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:50 pm
132 years on. I don't think anyone would bother to get permisson for one day. (Could be wrong)
Neil Aspinshaw
Posts : 553 Join date : 2009-10-14 Location : Loughborough
Subject: Re: Permission to wear Zulu War Medal. Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:15 pm
Providing you wear them on the Right breast, not left, you can wear your ancestors, such as WW1 or WW2 medals.
JohnB
Posts : 95 Join date : 2010-01-10 Age : 71 Location : Taunton
Subject: Re: Permission to wear Zulu War Medal. Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:29 pm
My understanding is you must also be dressed in civilian clothes, not military uniform. If in military unifom you are only permitted to wear your own medals.
JohnB
1879graves
Posts : 3319 Join date : 2009-03-03 Location : Devon
Subject: Re: Permission to wear Zulu War Medal. Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:36 pm
As for wearing of the medals the wording and regulations from the MoD Medal Office is as follows:
"There are no regulations which govern the wearing of medals awarded to persons who are deceased. Although it is not formally authorised, it has become an acceptable practice for Next of Kin or Legal Beneficiary (when in civilian dress) to wear deceased persons insignia as a mark of rememberance on suitable occasions if they so desire. (The most notable is Remeberance Sunday Parades and Services). When so doing, the medals are worn on the right hand breast in civilian dress only. The custom of wearing other persons' medals in this manner does not offend either the Army Act 1955 section 197 or the emotional tribute to which such wearing is intended".
Dave
Posts : 1604 Join date : 2009-09-21
Subject: Re: Permission to wear Zulu War Medal. Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:06 pm
Thanks 1879Graves. Would the next of kin need a document to certify that he is the legal owner of the medal and is the next of kin to whom the medal was issued?
1879graves
Posts : 3319 Join date : 2009-03-03 Location : Devon
Subject: Re: Permission to wear Zulu War Medal. Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:40 pm
Hi All
I have been asked to post the following for all to see.
With regard to the thread about wearing a family members' medals - the posts are quite correct in saying the convention is for a descendant to wear them on the opposite (right) side of the chest. And here are a couple of relevent photos. This is Roger Lane, great grandson of Sgt Henry Gallagher of B Company fame, in Zululand in January 2007 (at iSandlwana and Fugitives' Drift) wearing period uniform, with Gallagher's medals.
Posts : 95 Join date : 2010-01-10 Age : 71 Location : Taunton
Subject: Re: Permission to wear Zulu War Medal. Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:14 pm
Hi 1879 Graves
In view of the previous comments, does 'period costume' mean the same as 'civilian clothes' if it is a copy of a military uniform?
JohnB
1879graves
Posts : 3319 Join date : 2009-03-03 Location : Devon
Subject: Re: Permission to wear Zulu War Medal. Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:55 pm
Hi JohnB
'period costume' mean the same as 'civilian clothes'
You are correct
As far as I understand, there is a difference between military unifom and period costume. One is a Uniform which is current and the other is a costume, which was worn at the time. So a costume is the same as 'civilian clothes'.
Mr Greaves
Posts : 747 Join date : 2009-10-18
Subject: Re: Permission to wear Zulu War Medal. Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:06 am
Thanks for posting photo’s 1879Graves. Roger Lane the actual Great Grandson of Sgt Henry Gallagher. Standing in the same style of uniform, as his Grandfather would have worn back in 1879. Don’t you just love History?
P.S. Looked at the information re: Henry Gallagher. 1879Graves says, “See Pictorial catalogue of AZW graves” I looked for it cannot find it. Was it posted?
old historian2
Posts : 1095 Join date : 2009-01-14 Location : East London
Subject: Re: Permission to wear Zulu War Medal. Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:08 am