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Lieutenant John Chard: The army doesn't like more than one disaster in a day.
Bromhead: Looks bad in the newspapers and upsets civilians at their breakfast.

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Colour Sergeant Bourne: A prayer's as good as bayonet on a day like this.

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Lieutenant John Chard: I came here to build a bridge.

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Pte. Thomas Cole: Why is it us? Why us?
Colour Sergeant Bourne: Because we're here, lad. Nobody else. Just us.

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Reverend Otto Witt: One thousand British soldiers have been massacred. While I stood here talking peace, a war has started.

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Pte. Henry Hook: Rourke's Drift... It'd take an Irishman to give his name to a rotten stinking middle o' nowhere hole like this.

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Lieutenant John Chard: What's our strength?
Lieutenant Gonville Bromhead: Seven officers including surgeon, commissaries and so on; Adendorff now I suppose; wounded and sick 36, fit for duty 97 and about 40 native levies. Not much of an army for you.

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Lieutenant Gonville Bromhead: Damn the levies man... Cowardly blacks!
Adendorff: What the hell do you mean "cowardly blacks?" They died on your side, didn't they? And who the hell do you think is coming to wipe out your little command? The Grenadier Guards?

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Lieutenant Gonville Bromhead: Sixty! We dropped at least 60, wouldn't you say?
Adendorff: That leaves only 3,940.

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Colour Sergeant Bourne: It's a miracle.
Lieutenant John Chard: If it's a miracle, Colour Sergeant, it's a short chamber Boxer Henry point 45 caliber miracle.
Colour Sergeant Bourne: And a bayonet, sir, with some guts behind.

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Lieutenant John Chard: Mr. Bourne, there should be 12 more men working on this redoubt.
Color Sgt. Bourne: They're very tired, sir.
[Chard whirls around]
Lieutenant John Chard: I don't give a damn! And I want this wall nine feet high, firing steps on the inside. Form details to clear away the Zulu bodies, rebuild the south rampart, keep 'em moving! Do you understand?
Color Sgt. Bourne: Yes sir... very good, sir.

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Surgeon Maj. Reynolds: You know this boy?
Orderly: Name is Cole, sir. He's a paper hanger.
Surgeon Maj. Reynolds: Well, he's a dead paper hanger now.

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Lieutenant Gonville Bromhead: Now there's a bitter pill. Our own damned rifles!

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Surgeon Maj. Reynolds: Orderly, Damn it! Will you keep the flies away. Fan it! Damn you, Chard! Damn all you butchers!

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[points towards the fleeing cavalry]
Reverend Otto Witt: The way of the Lord has been shown to us!

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Bromhead: You mean your only plan is to stand behind a few feet of mealie bags and wait for the attack?

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Lieutenant Gonville Bromhead: Fear certainly dries the throat, doesn't it? I was never so thirsty in my life!
Lieutenant John Chard: I could have drunk a river.
Lieutenant Gonville Bromhead: Was it like this for you? I mean, how did you feel the first time?
Lieutenant John Chard: How do you feel?
Lieutenant Gonville Bromhead: I feel afraid and there's something more. I feel ashamed. There. You asked me and I told you. How was it your first time?
Lieutenant John Chard: Do you think I could stand this butcher's yard more than once?

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Lieutenant John Chard: Mr. Witt! When I have the impertinence to climb into your pulpit to deliver a sermon, then you can tell me my duty.
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The Swedish missionaries (the Witts) were not at the Battle of Rorke's Drift. Witt, his wife and infant daughter were 30 km away. They had put Rorke's Drift at Lord Chelmsford's disposal. The 24th Regiment of Foot is described as a Welsh regiment: in fact, although based in Brecon, its designation was the 2nd Warwickshire Regiment; it did not become the South Wales Borderers until 1881. Only 11 of the defenders were Welsh. The song Men of Harlech features prominently as the regimental song; it did not become so until later. The actors have a more modern appearance than their characters did. Michael Caine
,for example, with his shiny teeth and groomed blonde hair, bore little resemblance to the real Gonville Bromhead, who was rather old for his rank and had begun to go deaf. Many of the men, including Bromhead and Chard, wore full beards. The British infantrymen of the Anglo-Zulu War did not wear sparkling white helmets and scarlet uniforms — their uniforms were always covered in dust, and the soldiers dyed their helmets brown with tea, as white helmets could easily be seen from miles away in South Africa. The seniority of Chard and Bromhead (measured by their dates of commission) was three years, not three months as in the film. There was no dispute over command. Lieutenant Chard had been left in command, due to seniority, by Major Henry Spalding, well before the battle. Spalding had ridden off to get reinforcements but his motives have been questioned. Spalding claimed that he did not anticipate an imminent attack. Private Henry Hook VC is depicted as a rogue; in fact he was a model soldier who later became a sergeant (and a 'teetotaller'). While the film has him in the hospital "malingering, under arrest", he had actually been assigned there specifically to guard the hospital building. Conversely, Corporal Allen is depicted as a model soldier; in fact, he had recently been demoted from sergeant for drunkenness. Colour Sergeant Bourne is depicted as a big, hardened, middle-aged veteran; in fact, he was a small man and, aged 23, the youngest colour sergeant in the British Army. The role of Reverend "Ammunition" Smith is completely overlooked. The building of defensive ramparts and initial defence of Rorke's Drift was in actual fact organized by Acting Assistant Commissary James Langley Dalton. His distinction was ignored until several years after the battle and the credit was given to Lieutenants Chard and Bromhead. The real Dalton had retired as a Quartermaster Sergeant after 22 years of service in the British Army before joining the Commissariat and Transport Department. The film, however, portrays Dalton as something of an effete character, who does little that might be called heroic. This makes his award of a VC, as recounted at the film's end by Richard Burton
something of a mystery. the column of cavalry seen in the film actually was at Rorke's Drift. However, Chard ordered them to leave after seeing that they had little of their own ammunition. The real Sergeant Maxfield, like the film version, was delirious with fever. However, he was too weak to leave his bed and was stabbed to death by Zulus while the other sick and injured were being evacuated from the room. Private Cole was assigned to defend the hospital, not the perimeter. He was killed when he ran out of the hospital alone, possibly due to claustrophobia. Since he was killed by a bullet to the head, his last words in the film are unlikely to be authentic. Corporal Scheiss was significantly younger than the actor who portrayed him. At the time of his death in 1884 – five years after the battle – he was 28 years of age. Private Hitch was shot through the shoulder, not the leg. The rifles used by the Zulus were not taken from the British column at Isandlwana, as the film implies, but had been purchased much earlier. The Zulu impis that attacked Rorke's Drift had not participated in the Battle of Isandlwana. The ending is somewhat fictional. The Zulus did not sing a song saluting fellow braves and depart. They fled at the approach of a British relief column. This concession was made during filming for the current Zulu Chief, Mangosuthu Buthelezi who appears in the film as the Zulu leader King Cetshwayo kaMpande. The story of the black auxiliaries deserting is true, though, as Mr Witt was 30 km away at the time, he did not cause this. They left on their own will, with two white men, a civilian and a member of the Army Commissariat Department. Shots were fired at these deserters and the ACD member was killed. The film omits the killing of 500 wounded Zulus by British soldiers after the battle. The pistols used by the officers were Webley pistols not the correct Adams revolver, and several men can be seen using Lee Enfield Mk. 1 bolt action rifles and not the Martini-Henry. There was no Zulu attact at dawn of the 23rd January. There was only sparse fighting with some left behind Zulu soldiers. Leading to the second course of not singing of Men of Harlech
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