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"This photograph shows the Magnus Cricket Team of 1863 in their scarlet shirts which were introduced by the Revd Herbert Plater (Headmaster 1854-93). Left to right, front row: C Myers, F V Bussell, Fisher Clark, C Riddell; back row: Fountain, E H Nicholson, C White, Rev Webb (Master), J S Hutchinson, W Humblecroft and Gonville Bromhead. The team was coached by leading county professionals, and when attending away matches were driven in a coach drawn by four 'spanking greys'. The picture is remarkable in that it features Gonville Bromhead (back row, far right) who, as a Lieutenant in the 24th Regiment of Foot in 1879, was awarded the Victoria Cross at the Battle of Rorke's Drift. (He was played by Michael Caine in the film 'Zulu'). Gonville Bromhead was born on 29th August 1845. The Bromhead family seat was at Thurlby Hall in Lincolnshire in Lincolnshire, although Gonville was actually born at Versailles, near Paris. He was educated at the Magnus Grammar School in Newark, arriving there in 1860 at the age of 15. He stayed for four years. The registers covering his time at the school do not survive, and while his academic achievements remain a mystery, his prowess on the cricket field is not in doubt. He played for the schools First XI and was a left-handed medium pace bowler. At the age of 22, three years after leaving the Magnus Grammar School, he enlisted as the Ensign in the 24th Regiment of Foot, embarking on a military career which would occupy him for the rest of his life. After four years he was promoted to lieutenant, gaining early battle experience in the South African War of 1878. In January 1879, England was surprised and alarmed to learn of the Zulu victory at Isandhlwana, where a force of six full companies from the Warwickshire Regiment and the 24th Regiment of Foot were almost completely wiped out in a matter of hours. They had been overwhelmed by a force of 4000 Zulus, who despite possessing inferior weapons, had flung themselves against the soldiers in such numbers that their ammunition was quickly exhausted. The tragedy was that, in the belief that any attack could be easily repulsed, cases of ammunition had remained firmly screwed shut when the soldiers needed them most. British military honour was in tatters, and it was feared that the whole of Natal would be overrun. The only obstacle in the Zulu's way was the tiny British military outpost at Rorke's Drift, which guarded a narrow pass into the neighbouring country. The mission church and hospital at Rorke's Drift was defended by only 138 officers and men. When news reached them of the massacre at Isandhlwana the senior officers at Rorke's Drift, Lieutenants John Chard and Gonville Bromhead, realised that it was up to them. The post was quickly made ready for defence, with mealie bags and boxes of rations biscuits being used to create a corral from behind which the soldiers could fire on their attackers. These defences had been barely completed when some time after 4pm on January 22 1879, the attack began. As successive waves of men attacked the camp, the battle raged into the night, the field of fire illuminated by the burning remains of the troop hospital. Remarkably, Bromhead and his men saved Rorke's Drift, leaving 371 of their attackers dead on the battlefield. Bromhead was mentioned in despatches and later in the year, at Utrecht, was awarded the Victoria Cross. Back in England, the city of Lincoln presented him with a jewelled sword and illuminated address, while the tenants of Thurlby Hall made him the gift of a revolver, which Bromhead kept with him throughout the rest of his life. In Newark, the Magus paid tribute by naming one of its school houses after him. Bromhead, at the age of 34, had received the highest military honour that his country could bestow. For many this would have been the signal to live out the rest of his life in some less dangerous occupation. Bromhead, however, entertained no such notion, and resumed his military career with renewed vigour. After serving in South Africa, Gibraltar and the East Indies, he was posted to Secunderabad, in India. In February 1891, at the age of 46, he was taken ill with enteric typhoid fever and died. Gonville Bromhead VC, is buried in the military cemetery in Allahabad"
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Hi all

What type is this revolver ?

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it's a British Stanton & Co .45 Revolver.

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Hi and Thank Bill

Range 50 yards ?

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20 to 30 yards.
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Maximun ?

With 6 rounds ?
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Thanks Bill & Drummer Boy for posting those answers .
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Hi all

There were no other types of revolvers in the army?
It was a regulatory model?

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PostSubject: Re: Revolver Presented to the late Major Gonville Bromhead VC   Revolver Presented to the late Major Gonville Bromhead VC EmptyWed Feb 22, 2012 7:58 am

Hi Pascal

This revolver was presented to Bromhead AFTER the AZW !

The range would be about 100yards, but as has been said, in terms of accuracy, 20 to 30 yards would be more realistic.

The mosty common types of revolver in the AZW were Adams' and Tranters'. It is my understanding that the officers were expected to buy their own revolvers, though the army would provide ammunition - but only in 0.45 calibre.

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thank you and bravo Bill

And they all worth ?

Why use this rather than here ?

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Pascal

Sorry, I don't understand the question !

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PostSubject: Re: Revolver Presented to the late Major Gonville Bromhead VC   Revolver Presented to the late Major Gonville Bromhead VC EmptyFri Feb 24, 2012 7:09 am

Hi all

Bill , my question was:

All these pistols had the same efficacy ?

Why use one model over another?

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PostSubject: Re: Revolver Presented to the late Major Gonville Bromhead VC   Revolver Presented to the late Major Gonville Bromhead VC EmptyFri Feb 24, 2012 7:35 am

Hi Pascal

There was not a lot to chose between the revolvers, it was just a matter of personal choice - a bit like buying a car !

All you really had to consider was the calibre, unless you wanted to buy your own ammunition.

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HI Bill

Yes if they are all the same caliber, but I personnaly I will choose the one that requires the least maintenance, or shooting with may be a faster or further ...

Finally you see the kind of detail I want to talk. ..

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Hi Pascal

And of course weight might be an important consideration !

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Hi all

Yes,Yes Bill , also the nest is ? In your opinion ?

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Hi Pascal

Sorry, I have no opinion on which is the best revolver.

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Hi all

Bravo , genial the pictures !...

Salute

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