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Kopie
It is still possible to use 'Natal Kaffirs' when quoting or speaking in certain historical contexts, but you HAVE to be careful.


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A word of advice, if you visit RSA don't even consider using it in any context at all.

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That goes without saying!
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PostSubject: Re: A strong a presentiment of coming evil...    A strong a presentiment of coming evil...  - Page 2 EmptyThu Nov 14, 2013 6:06 pm

our RSA friends are still very sensitive!
and eager to put that odious regime
which was apartheid where it belong's,
in the past, meanwhile the struggle
against inequality and justice go's on
in a spirit of reconcilliation.

We must accept that some words are
just to inflammatory and must be! in
this modern world confined to the
dustbin of world history.

Julian's point is of course correct, i have
books from 1871 and every decade since
and many multiples in most decade's, we
who have this material readily under-
stand the appalling casual racism contained
in a hell of a lot of these accounts. but most
of us who have read such word's. do not
substitute a minor less threatening alternative
as we read in real time.no we confront them
head on and leave them where we find them
which is in ignorance!!!

Julian was again quite correct that historical
racial terms can only be repeated in an
academic setting, these terms are offensive.
but it does not stop authors of the modern
era repeating them, usually with a disclaimer..
but they do not attempt to eradicate them.
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Lester

Now the racism is replaced by xenophobia, this is politics, this has not changed since the nineteenth century ...

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rascal, Oui, je crains qu'il ne changera jamais de sitôt..
its down to all of us to set the example. and if favoured
with off spring..instill correct values while they are
young and impressional. xhosa
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I feel I must point out before I become a target that my explanation/justification of the correct usage of current non-pc terms is not MY explanation/justification but from the guidelines of the University of London (which all other universities in the UK ape).

I would add that historically it is wrong to judge the standards/mores of a previous time by the standards/mores of 2013. What appears to be casual racism now was then not casual racism but accepted everyday usage.

I have a badge of the Anglo-German Friendship Society from 1936. It has two entwined flags on it. The Union flag and the Nazi swastika. Who now would have thought such a thing possible? But then...
In the 1980s the USA was funding Saddam Hussain's Iraq to fight a proxy war against Iran. Who now would have thought such a thing was possible? But then...
In 2013 the USA and Iran are sitting around a table discussing the peaceful development of Iran's nuclear programme. What will be happening in 2025 I wonder?
And as for China...watch this space...
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[quote="Julian Whybra"]  What appears to be casual racism now was then not casual racism but accepted everyday usage.  
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No, Julian, it was racist back then. Do you think "Maori" Browne had equal opportunities for promotion in his company?

I would not criticise or judge people for being racist back in 1879. Being racist was the norm back then.
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Was it Racist, or just words!
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ask the Black people on the
receiving end of it!! Sad 
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Human beings are all the same ...

There are racist at all times and in all ethnic groups ... not just with the white ...

And that will never change, it is the policy that creates this, it is governments that creates this, for all levels, in internal politics and international politics ...

Capitalism gives imperialism , imperialism gives colonialism and colonialism gives racism, xenophobia ect ...

Patriotism gives nationalism and it also creates racism, xenophobia ect ...

And governments use patriotism for political purpose, because the citizens of all countries are zombified ...

And I'm not talking about religion, which also is used for political purpose...

Does it always end badly to fill the pockets of a few thousand of s.. .. . ..... !!!

But humanity used to get f..... !!!

And nothing has changed since man became sedentary ... it continued our day with internet and it's even worse ...

You only have to go on social or political forum and you'll see ...

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Pascal MAHE wrote:
Human beings are all the same ...

There are racist at all times and in all ethnic groups ... not just with the white ...

And that will never change
Sadly, Pascal is probably right. Racism has existed perhaps even before Cro Magnons started ethnically cleansing the Neandertahls. However, humans have done a lot of bad things for a long time, including slavery. It still goes on, but just because it "has always happened" does not mean that it should be accepted, or that intelligent people should give up leading the way in changing it.
Humankind has separated itself from the rest of the animal kingdom by its conscience, values, thinking, morals, empathy, and trying to live and learn by those qualities. It is called humanity and long may it continue! If intelligent people were to give up on it, the human race would devolve back to being just another species of ape.
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Yes sir , humankind has itself separated from the rest of the animal kingdom ...

This is the problem, there has never been a worse species on earth that the human species ...

All species of giant animals who reigns on earth before the appearance of man, were bisounours next humans ...

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Kopie
Using the words that everyone else used in 1879 as acceptable terminology is not the same thing as equal opportunities for promotion in his company. And it is not racist. Even Bishop Colenso writes of 'Kaffirs' and you couldn't get anyone at that time more pro-Black rights and equalities than him in SA.
Think of our own time. In the 70s it was the done thing to refer to 'coloureds'; it was not acceptable to talk about 'blacks'. The euphemism changes with fashion. The same thing tends to happen with all euphemisms - they are of their time.
It is not what you call people but how you treat them that matters.
When you write "being racist was the norm back then" presupposed that people had the concept of 'racism'. That becomes very difficult to substantiate.
I could write that being stupid was the norm back then or being cruel was the norm back then. They equally would both be nonsense. One cannot make such generalisations in history.
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Racism is to consider that a person is inferior to another, because its people is of a less advanced civilization on the technical and industrial plan, and often do not possess industry ...

Nowadays people are more xenophobic than racist , it is because of the waves of immigration ...

When the racialist is something else, they class men like animals , seeking them belonging to ethnic groups, ect normally they are not racist , but sometimes they become or do research for purposes of demonstrating , the so-called superiority of one ethnic group over another ...

Must explain to people that if the word race comes from the word racism, racism does not exist, because there is usually only one human race to earth, the homo sapiens ...

So, this is only xenophobia ...

For the word Kaffir , in the nineteenth century , it was a word to designate all the blacks of b South Africa, everyone employed , but in the mouths of some, there was a racist connotation , but not for all...
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Julian Whybra wrote:
One cannot make such generalisations in history.
Or, increasingly, any generalization whatsoever. This "joke" may put things in perspective:

"How Many Historians Does it Take to Screw in a Lightbulb?"

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"The term Caffre or Kaffir was in general use among Europeans throughout the eighteenth and nineteenth century to describe a black South African. It is derived from kafir, the term for unbeliever used by early Muslim traders, and the British found it preferable to Xhosa which they could not pronounce. Although undoubtedly dismissive, the word does not then seem to have implied the degree of bitter contempt with which it has become loaded in more recent times"
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This is just a generic word, it was perhaps not even a racist word...

It was just for designer negroid types peoples in South Africa and only in South Africa in the XIXth century...
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