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Just an idea... 

Anyone interested in a live debate using the Chatbox feature. Sunday's are normally a good day, sometime in the afternoon ( After our dinners have gone down) 

A topic should be agreed on Saturday and debated live on Sunday. 
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Hi,

I will try and make it.....

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Sunday is a good day for me. ( what's a dinner) May I suggest the first discussion be about " Should Major Spalding have left R.D"
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I don't mind having ago. Old H just out of interest. Do you think Spalding should have left or sent a junior officer in his place.
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Would we, after a nice sunday roast and a little claret, be excused/allowed to thump the table and use words like "codswallop" and "poppycock"?

Being on a final warning, I might opt out of this one! Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Live debate once a week.    Live debate once a week.  EmptyThu Jan 26, 2012 10:18 pm

Then perhaps you should learn the art of debate. Idea Then you wouldn't need to use the words you mentioned. Tasker what would be the subject you would bring into debate.
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Good debate involves bouncing ideas off other people. Debate is not a forum for asserting absolute truths, but rather a means of making and evaluating arguments that allows debaters to better understand their own and others’ positions. Perhaps most members are happy to reply then sit and wait for a reply, rather than use the live feature to debate. I personally think it would be entertaining so what if it gets a bit heated. I'm sure we know the difference between rudeness and discussion.

I would choose to debate, the effectiveness of the MH rifle.
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Quite right Dave, I think I learned the art of debating from watching the muppets at work in the House of Commons!

The subject I would like to debate is, "Were the record number of VCs awarded for RD, an attempt to spin public opinion away from the disaster at iSandlwana?"
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Tasker has chosen a good topic to being. I for one think that all the VCs awarded to those who took part in the defence of the Mission Station at Rorke's Drift was for gallantry during the action and not to over shadow the disaster at Isandlwana. Although not possible I think all surviving defenders should have received the VC.
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I am more than happy to join in on Sunday (glass of wine in hand) :lol:
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Maybe I'll risk it!
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PostSubject: Re: Live debate once a week.    Live debate once a week.  EmptyFri Jan 27, 2012 8:39 pm

tasker224 wrote:
"Were the record number of VCs awarded for RD, an attempt to spin public opinion away from the disaster at iSandlwana?

2 VCs were given in 1880 and the other one was given after the British had one the Battle of Ulundi, no need to distrat from Isandlwana then, they had a huge victory to celbrate.




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Agree seems a good topic to start with. Just a suggestion when this goes ahead. Members can post what they want as long as its to do with the topic in hand. What must not be said at any stage is " it's all ready on the forum" or " this has been discussed before" if it's going to be a live debate then it should be just that. All we need to agree on, is the start time and end time. For those like me who are not quick on the key board it doesn't matter all the information will be relevant. Some of us are bound to make spelling mistakes again it does not matter ( as long as it can be understood) I'm looking forward to Sunday. I'm sure between us we can make this very enjoyable but heated at times. Very Happy

P.S when the finsh time is reached. That's the end of the debate.

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PostSubject: Re: Live debate once a week.    Live debate once a week.  EmptySat Jan 28, 2012 9:29 am

LH, a bit early for a malt for me!
I wouldn't object to the odd "it's been discussed..." pointer to other threads and info on the forum that have been discussed before, as long as they were helpful and not used as a put down.
There is such a huge amount on this forum that it could fill a small library and no one can have read it all. Hope no one calls in sick tomorrow and I can make it!


DB14. VCs are not dished out immediately after an action. There is a long process of recommendation, discussion, witness statements and deliberation to go through.
However, fantastic stories of outstanding gallantry at RD (and iSandlwana - M and C, true or untrue) hit the newspapers at the same time as the story of the defeat of the camp. THIS was the important spin. Or was it? Lookng 4wd to the debate. If this particular topic is not chosen, let's debate it in the forum. There is a relevant thread somewhere I think which can be continued, will search it out.
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PostSubject: Re: Live debate once a week.    Live debate once a week.  EmptySat Jan 28, 2012 9:32 am

Hi Tasker

What i ment was there was only 8 VCs after Isandlwana, there was no need for others to distract as we had one a huge battle.

The only people who's VCs are debatible are Chard and Bromhead, the others performed acts of bravery
that merit them a VC
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"there was only 8 VCs" Shocked
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How about 19:00hrs today. End at 20:00hrs.

Admin. Could the feature be moved to the top of the home page.
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PostSubject: Re: Live debate once a week.    Live debate once a week.  EmptySun Jan 29, 2012 10:10 am

tasker224 wrote:
"there was only 8 VCs" Shocked

In the imedate after math of the battle only 8 VCs were awarded

By the time the next one was awarded we had won the battle of Ulundi and the other 2 where in 1880


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An hour would be good to start with. Salute

Admin. Can visitors to the forum, view the debate or is it just forum members.
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PostSubject: Re: Live debate once a week.    Live debate once a week.  EmptySun Jan 29, 2012 11:20 am

OldH. I sent Admin a PM asking that question, its just forum members.
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Thanks 24th. Salute
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