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Who is really responsible of the Anglo-Zulu War ?

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Pascal. You need to start searching the forum. The answers are here. We are way past the cause of the war and who started it.

"Lord Chelmsford invaded Zululand without the knowledge of the British Government in the hope that he could Capture Cetshwayo, the Zulu King, before London discovered that hostilities had begun."
 
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Chelmsford also wouldn't have invaded without Bartle Frere.



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For me the responsible of the Anglo-Zulu War is Frere .

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There you go. End of discussion. Salute
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And the rotten colonialism for the rotten capitalism.

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The young Prince Napolian was happy to be a part of it.
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Hi all

When the brave Zulu jumped on him he had to be happy too ...

Bonaparte was not Prince. And very little French, saw his ancestors.

His father was the president of the republic in 1848, as elected by a majority of those who had the right to vote at the time.

The Bonapartes had always assumed power through coups, so they are not legitimate rulers of France.

So all they have done in history is not legitimate, so it is not the history of France, is the history of the Bonaparte family ...

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What happened in England in 1066 was not a coup ? We accept it as part of English history.
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"And the rotten colonialism for the rotten capitalism"

This might be your view but i do not think it added to the discussion and this is not a politcal forum .

Personally i am very proud of our Colonial past.
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Garry

The invasion of Britain by the Normans, Bretons, Flemings and French in 1066 is not a coup, Edward the Confessor had designated William of Normandy as his legitimate successor ...

In addition, people proud of his country's colonial past, when we see what state is africa today is really the ...

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I think we are in grave danger of going off topic but ; from Encyclopedia Britannia ;


"On his deathbed, Edward named Harold as his successor".


i am not sure if your other remark is an insult to me personally or my country in general but i do not think it is called for .
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Africa????????? scratch Something wrong with Africa scratch Shocked

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Hi Springbok .
At the risk of going off topic , Apologies Pete / all . In answer to your question ........ YES !! .............Not enough Aussies there !
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Dear Gary

For 1066 you do not have the good encyclopedia, but it's normal it's your nationalism speaking, although Britain is 70 years since an American state.

In that touches the colonies in Africa, this also applies to the French, Belgians, Germans, Italians, Spanish and Portuguese.

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i am not sure the Americans rewrite our encyclopedias to change the line of succesion .

In fact i am sure they have never heard of William the C or Harold .

Worth remembering that if had not been for England 70 years ago then europe would have been a German state - America did its fair share as well , unless my history is wrong on that as well ?

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..........................................most of them learning to play cricket :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Springbok , this post will be on about as long as an innings by an Aussie opener :lol:

And you are right , i should know better than to get wound up - especially as its my birthday next week on Tuesday - May 8th , VE day and a holiday in france - though not in England .

apologies to Admin in advance and i wish everyone a good week end .


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Yeah Gary ,good riddance :lol:

And it is not the topic
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Dear Springbok 9

Pour insulter les gens, c'est mieux quand les gens sont face de toi...

Voilà pôurquoi je ne le fais jamais sur un forum...

Moi avec certaines personnes , j'aime mieux leurs donner des coups que de me disputer avec , c'est une grande habitude chez moi depuis l'enfance , question de tempérament ,Voilà pourquoi je n'insulte jamais personne sur un forum...

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Dear Springbok 9

To insult people, it is best when people are facing you ...

That's why I never do on a forum ...

Some people with me, I prefer their kicking to argue with that, it's a great habit for me since childhood, temperament issue, is why I never insult someone on a forum ...

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Before this topic gets deleted, I believe that the Zulus are responsible for the AZW and that Frere provided them with the means to instigate it.
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Julian
Not often I get suprised, this is one of those times.

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Well, I might as well be controversial, it might make for an interesting discussion.
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I suppose one could follow lines right back to Jan van Riebeeck, however the whole invasion was designed to achieve the dream of confederation, and that started with Lord Carnarvon and James Anthony Froud. The rest was just a progression.

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The Zulu responsible for this war?

But then they were foolish enough to provoke the Great - Britain ...?

Do not they know its power and their king had he not allowed his troops to penetrate in Natal ...

The poor, they imaginient still not able to have the same incredibly lucky that Red Cloud in 1868 ...

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