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To echo 90th, well put Pete.

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I am a new member. Hope I am doing this right,. Saw the film Zulu on 22 may 1964 for the first time. It has never gone away. My grandfather servide in the SWB in the first world war, where he lost a leg. I am a Bolton lad (almost 61) . Been to Brecon twice and verious graves sites. Did you know that major Chard spent a number of years at Fulwood Barracks in Preston. The house he lived in is still there.
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Welcome David, hope you enjoy the forum. Could be an idea to take a photo of the house and post it for the members.

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Hello David,welcome! the centenary of the great war
is in full swing, lots of amazing documentaries and
events for the next four years or so. very interesting
re Chard vc, is there any formal recognition of his time
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Still hope I am doing the right thing. Re Major Chard's home in Preston. He was at Fulwood Barracks from May 1887 to Dec 1872. He lived at 80 Victoria Road with his servant George Theodoubic(?) from Cyprus. There is no recognition on the property. I do have photos of the house and barracks plus of grave of Rev George Smith 9also in Preston) who died in a hotel near Fulwood Barracks. I am not sure how to get copies posted on site but would be happy to try. Also am looking at two privates of B co 24th who both born Wigan and one lived short time in Bolton, John Smith (would be, does not make research easy) and William Neville. Glad to be part of this forum. David
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David email the images to Pete ( Admin ) he will post under your name. We all do it!  Phzuluwar7@gmail.com.

David is the grave you speak of! Click on link below.

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With regards to Rev Smith's grave; yes that is the grave on the photo. If anyone wants to try and find it in Preston Cemty, then I can supply directions.
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Not sure we have seen Chards house in Preston? David does it have a blue plaque?
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He's in a great spot, nice
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Welcome David, and hope you enjoy your time on here.

Les mate, we have another 'Lancashire Lad' amongst us, the Red Roses are growing  Very Happy  agree 

Preston is not all that far from where I live, but getting to Fulwood without a car means travelling by train (and changing), then finding a bus service that goes to Fulwood.

Les, is that you standing next to the grave in the clip above?
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Yeah Martin the red roses are growing,
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And goodbye to David Moyes. If the Red Roses don't do the job We can always let you have a couple more Proteas for the garden !  Very Happy 

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Moyes? Red Rose????  scratch scratch scratch 

He's a prickly scotch thistle springy, not a Red Rose Lancastrian like us mate.

Never been a utd fan (and never will be), but they could have let him stay on longer, it made a lot of people very happy seeing them get stuffed at home and away, so they should have kept him on for a few more years, they may have ended up in the combination league  agree 

I don't think that 'suikerbos' will grow very well over here mate, best to keep them back in SA.

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Hi Les, got your PM mate, many thanks for that.

Alan Whicker, what a guy he was, great voice for the type of programme he did, and who could do it better, talk about 'I've been everywhere man', he must have been to most parts of the globe, and he was also a WW2 hero, if I recall correctly, did he not take the surrender of the Italians at some stronghold or other, or am I thinking of someone else? Whatever, he did his bit during WW2.
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There is no indication on the house in Victoria Road that Major Chard once lived there. I found it out looking on at the census for 1891. Did you know that when Chard died he left £8,617 to his brother?
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That would have been a fortune back in the day!


" In his Will,made at Edinburgh on l4th.June l897,in which his younger brother, Reverend Charles Edward Chard was named the sole executor, the majority of his personal estate was left to the Reverend Chard, including the following items, which are relevant to this article:

(a).Pictures (portrait?) given by Her Majesty Queen Victoria.

(b). The sword and watch given by the people of Plymouth.

(c). Sketch by De Neuville. Not identified.

(d). Illuminated Addresses. Not identified.

(e).Engravings and photographs of Rorke's Drift; Bromhead and Chard.

(f).Books containing letters and newspaper cuttings made up by Colonel Chard's elder brother, William Wheaton Chard.

(g).The Victoria Cross,South Africa Nedal,1877-1879 and Regimental sword.

90. As stated, the above items of personal property were left to the Reverend C.E.Chard for his "life use only". On the death of his younger brother, it was designated that, the same items would pass to Colonel Chard's nephew,William Wheaton Chard of Mount Tamar,Plymouth, Devon.

91. Amongst other property mentioned in the Will, the following items are of interest:

(a). A gun to J.C.C.Middleton,son of Judge Middleton, of Nicosia,Cyprus.

(b). A telescope to Humphrey,son of Frank Hollins of Grey Friars, Preston, Lancashire.

(c). Diamonds (quantity not specified) in the possession of Colonel Chard's sister in law,Annie Chard, to his friends,Sir Elliot and Lady Bovill.

(d) Minlature Victoria Cross and South Africa Medal, 1877-1879,a gold pencil case and a plain gold ring - "I shall be wearing when I die" - to Lady Bovill.

(e). A collection of Cyprus antiquities to the Brassey Institute, Hastings, Kent.

(f). His property at Moredon~ to his sister,Charlotte Barrett. North Curry, Somerset,

92. The gross value of his Estate was f8,617.16.lld (net value �8,165.O.lOd),was granted Probate on 28th. December, 1897."

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I live in Chaddleworth and W Cotesworth has a window in St Andrews Church dedicated to W & H Cotesworth. Both were naval captains I believe and Hugo served in the Zulu War (again I believe).
I would be very grateful for any information on W Coteworth as I have in my possession a photograph of him.

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Dear Grahame,

According to the medal roll, Sub Lieutenant H. Cotesworth of HMS Boadicea was entitled to the '1879' clasp, and his entry in 'The South African Campaign of 1879' by Mackinnon & Shadbolt reads as follows:

'Was Naval A.D.C. to Gen. Crealock, and accompanied the Divis(ion) to Port Durnford'

His time on shore was 20th March - 11th July 1879.

Sorry I don't have any more information.

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Hello everyone, new member billbert here. Like other members, I saw the film in 1964 as a mere 7 year old and I was so amazed at the Zulu bravery in charging against rifles that I have been interested ever since. I have a couple of books on the subject and will comment on them in the appropriate forums. I also have bought within the last 2 days a mark 2 Martini Henry rifle and am in the process of researching the markings on it. I am looking foreward to many interesting topics to discuss.







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Bill thanks for the introduction, you certainly have come to the right place. Regarding the markings MH rifle, our on site expert. Would be the one to contact. Looking forward to your future posts. agree
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Hi all Martin here. New member. Ive always been interested in the Anglo Zulu war since of course first watching Zulu many many years ago. My son (currently in the Falklands being very bored )is keen to wargame the war . So of course i get to paint all the Zulus cos hes not here.Im sure he planed that! The site looks interesting but can anyone help me with a website I found and lost . It had facsimiles of letters and despatches between officers in Zululand and England and battle reports .I Was particularly interested in the battle of iNyezane.If anyone can help me there I would be most grateful. Cheers Martin
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Martin Could this be the one. Question

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Hi thanks for that . Unfortunatly that isnt the one. It had copies of yellowed official battle accounts from officers . Its probably buried in a website somewhere and i found it by accident .Thanks anyway. Cheers martin
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Hi everyone Im Neil, a new member and haven't posted on this (or any forum) before. I grew up in Natal and Zululand and caught the bug when I was 11 thanks mainly to an excellent history teacher and easy access to the battle sites. I now live in the UK and collect AZW material (I'm sure there's more here than SA!) but often run into brick walls when researching objects, particularly Zulu stuff. So hoping to absorb some of the vast knowledge on this forum. Cheers!
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Welcome Neil , I can tell you there's a lot of Zulu Stuff here in Australia as well ! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Hello all,

Long time lurker here, finally have a little time free every now and then to join in.
The Zulu war has always been my passion, whether reading, drawing, painting 24th miniatures etc, it's nice to be here amongst like minded folk.

Thank you for accepting my account request, I'll be sure to get involved when free and hope to share some of my painted miniatures and thoughts with you along the way.



Cheers

Ryan (isifuba)
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PostSubject: Re: New Members Welcome.    New Members Welcome.  EmptyMon Jan 25, 2021 8:35 pm

Thanks for joining Ryan. Looking forward to your posts, feel free to jump in when your ready. No Pressure. scratch
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PostSubject: Re: New Members Welcome.    New Members Welcome.  EmptyThu Jul 15, 2021 1:33 am

Stranger in the Mess, Gentlemen.

Greetings and Salutations.
I'm a recent enlistee here on the site, but I've been an avid wargamer, armchair historian, and militaria aficionado for pretty much my 4+ decades on this ball. However simultaneously I am an American, which means of course outside of WWII, I've been pretty much on my own as far as obscure (read: not 'Murcan) engagements from past centuries. I'm also a movie fanatic, nearly all genres. So when I say that, somehow, I managed to never see the film Zulu until quite recently, you'll share my bewilderment. And by recently I mean May 2021.

I had the general, pop cultural awareness; I knew Zulu warriors were a thing to be reckoned with, I knew the British, for a while there, seemed to think "gosh, these colonies sure are neat" though who could possibly keep track of them all, and I knew, the scene in Monty Python's Meaning of Life about the very real dangers of tigers in Africa. Outside of that, not much.  I could infer certainly that there were some engagements involving the oddly dressed British and the barely dressed Zulu just from the general milieu, but nothing specific.

About a year ago, as part of my "Hey I'm over 40 now and this is just expected of me going forward," I shifted from Warhammer 40k and D&D over to Historicals. Partially due to budgetary concern, partially due to my daughter's burgeoning interest in the AWI (specifically Alexander Hamilton), but mostly just because it's interesting. It was inevitable that I'd eventually see a reference to Rorke's Drift as a wargaming goal. What the hell is a Drift and who was Rorke? So I read about it. Then I found there was a movie. A movie I'd even heard of, complete with My Cocaine (say it out loud before you blow my bloody doors off). Now I know there are people on here that have issue with inaccuracies, but I found the film inspired, and it caused me to research and research and research. It's an added challenge as I am nearly as familiar with mid-19th century British militaria as I am with the Zulu (ACW takes up a lot of headspace for us Americans).

It is now mid-July. In that time, I've repeatedly watched Zulu, Zulu Dawn, that Meaning of Life scene, all 10 hours of Shaka Zulu, and whatever I could find from Symbol of Sacrifice. I've built a near 300 figure collection in 28mm and a full modular build of Rorke's Drift. I've bought and read most of Ian Knight's body of work, several of Ian Castle's and am waiting on delivery of Washing of the Spears which I'll devour voraciously. So much for Historicals being cheaper. I've even learned the clicking sounds for X, Q, and C so I can draw as much attention to myself as possible in casual conversation about what I've been up to.

I found this site while searching for images of patrol jackets oddly enough, and also found that, perhaps due to the age of the films, perhaps due to the climate of our time, this isn't exactly the most popular of conflicts these days, despite the obvious importance. So it seemed fitting to stay and check on that calf in the kraal.

The bottles of claret, are on me Gentlemen.
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PostSubject: New Members Welcome    New Members Welcome.  EmptyThu Jul 15, 2021 6:30 am

Welcome aboard Dreadnought13
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PostSubject: Re: New Members Welcome.    New Members Welcome.  EmptyThu Jul 15, 2021 8:53 am

Welcome, all!
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PostSubject: Re: New Members Welcome.    New Members Welcome.  EmptyWed Sep 29, 2021 2:28 am

Another Stranger in the Mess,

Greetings all. You have a Yank in the mess. Going to introduce myself. 24 year retired US Army Special Forces, and a Military Historian of the War for Independence and Colonial America. After watching Zulu Dawn, Shaka Zulu, and Zulu for decades. I've since developed a wee bit of an obsession with the AZW. Specifically Isandlwana. Even started learning isiZulu. Reading Ian Knight's Zulu Rising currently and following Christian Parkinson's The Redcoat History Podcast. I can pinpoint the actual event that started this journey. I was watching a documentary on Isandlwana, and Ian Knight mentioned what the troops must have been thinking when they realized they were going to die etc.,etc. After a quarter of my life in military service, this hit me like a ton of bricks. Since I never was in a position during 3 wars of being annihilated by an enemy. I still think of Ian's line when I watch that moment in Zulu Dawn when the head of the buffalo rises up and charges the line after Durnford's retreat. Well I've bored you all enough. Cheers from across the pond, and you can have my Claret since I can't stomach wine.
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PostSubject: New Members Welcome    New Members Welcome.  EmptyWed Sep 29, 2021 3:33 am

Welcome Bigpaulie
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PostSubject: Re: New Members Welcome.    New Members Welcome.  EmptySun Nov 14, 2021 7:14 pm

Hey there. I just created an account on this website, it looks very cool!
Sadly you can't be older than 99 on this website, so i was wondering...what if someone is 100 or if someone, like me, is 162 years old? Neutral
Obviously i'm joking haha. I'm 20 years old in reality.
Take care everyone, nice to meet you all x)
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PostSubject: Re: New Members Welcome.    New Members Welcome.  EmptySun Nov 14, 2021 7:44 pm

After a year on this forum. Your feel 162. Rolling Eyes
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