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PostSubject: who to want war ?   who to want war ? EmptySun Jul 08, 2012 11:10 am

Hello all

By the way, who to want war with the Zulus in 1879 and why?

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PostSubject: Re: who to want war ?   who to want war ? EmptySun Jul 08, 2012 11:19 am

You need to go right to the beginning. Google the cause of the Anglo Zulu War.
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PostSubject: Re: who to want war ?   who to want war ? EmptySun Jul 08, 2012 11:23 am

PS. The real cause was " GOLD" and DiAMONDS" Salute
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PostSubject: Re: who to want war ?   who to want war ? EmptySun Jul 08, 2012 1:28 pm

One word. Colonialism.
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PostSubject: Re: who to want war ?   who to want war ? EmptySun Jul 08, 2012 1:59 pm

So in other words GOLD" and DiAMONDS"
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PostSubject: Re: who to want war ?   who to want war ? EmptySun Jul 08, 2012 3:12 pm

This is not because Frere wanted to create the future white state "South Africa" and that therefore, it was federate all nations, black or Boers in this part of Africa ?

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PostSubject: Re: who to want war ?   who to want war ? EmptySun Jul 08, 2012 4:21 pm

Frere would have had no interest in having blacks or Boers in this state.
Protection and accummulation of diamonds and gold, yes.
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PostSubject: Re: who to want war ?   who to want war ? EmptySun Jul 08, 2012 4:44 pm

Ok impossible to take the gold or diamonds without crush the Zulus and then annex their country , but there were about gold and diamonds in Zululand ?

If so, how could they know, since the Zulus had no mines of gold or diamonds and that no whites were sought in Zululand for that ?

the invasion of Matabeleland for gold or diamonds, it's Ok, but for Zululand, is another matter ...

The idea is that Frere wanted to create a confederation or a federation and make it safe from Zulu, crushing, and then annexing them is more realistic.

Cape Colony + Natal + Transvaal + Zululand = South Africa dreamed by Frere ...

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PostSubject: Re: who to want war ?   who to want war ? EmptySun Jul 08, 2012 6:20 pm

Merci !
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PostSubject: Re: who to want war ?   who to want war ? EmptySun Jul 08, 2012 6:21 pm

It's very informative. Watch until the end....
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PostSubject: Re: who to want war ?   who to want war ? EmptySun Jul 08, 2012 7:19 pm

Ok encore merci mon gars
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