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PostSubject: Desertions in the imperial british army or white colonial troops...   Desertions in the imperial british army or white colonial troops... EmptySat Aug 18, 2012 7:43 am

Hi all

How many known cases of desertions in the imperial british army or white colonial troops in the zulu war ?

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NMP Trooper Hans Panzer deserter of the NMP, there were others ?
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Hi all

Anyone know if there were other cowards in the Natal Mounted Police?

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No deserters in the police ? What hypocrisy ! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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So easy to call others cowards, when you weren't there yourself. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Desertions in the imperial british army or white colonial troops...   Desertions in the imperial british army or white colonial troops... EmptyThu Aug 23, 2012 11:30 pm

Everybody has a breaking point, in war this is tested to the limit, some may run in the first battle, others may run in their 100th battle because their psychological limit to cope with the stress and carnage has been reached, others may never find what their limits are..................because they've been killed.

Everybody has a breaking point, doesn't make them cowards.

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Hi dhragonheart

In all the books on all the wars and with all armies at all times, it is always a question of deserters ...

But with the Zulu War is full vacuum ...

Not normal, before entering Zululand, because after it was too late.

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There was a few.

Anderson at RD. But he was shot by the British.

Melville & Coghill.

And the survivors from Isandlwana.

To name but a few....
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PostSubject: Re: Desertions in the imperial british army or white colonial troops...   Desertions in the imperial british army or white colonial troops... EmptyMon Aug 27, 2012 7:44 am

Hello and thanks Chelmsfordthescapegoat

For a serious error, what was the punishment in wartime? Because for minor offenses, the soldiers were still flogged in the British Army at that time ...

You had an ancestor Issandhlwana ! What name, rank and unit ,please...?

For Issandhlwana ,where is the book I can find the number of Lance-Corporal and Privates of 2/24 ...

I finished remake the crap figures of Wargames factory, I miss it more than the LS chevrons ...

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Anderson at RD. But he was shot by the British.

Melville & Coghill.

And the survivors from Isandlwana.

Anderson - Deserter

Melville & Coghill - Not deserters, 1) It was (and still is) a disgrace to lose the Colours in battle. 2) Were they ordered to save the Colours, if they were, then they are not deserters, they were following orders (no surviving evidence, especially if the orders were verbal)

The survivors at Isandhlwana - Not deserters, when a situation is completely lost and there is no hope, then you get out. I don't believe there was any mention at the time or afterwards in any inquiry that the survivors of Isandhlwana were deserters or cowards.

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Fugitives from Isandhlwana are not deserters, if their officers accompany or even if they have ordered their folds ...

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Hi Pascal .
As for most of your questions use the search box this has all been covered before !. Yes , flogging was still put into practice during the AZW . I have posted some instances but you will need to look for them . Shocked .
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Pascal, out of the British forces the officers were the first to leave. As for Melville and Coghill being ordered to save the colours, is rubbish. There are no witness to confirm this, and they didn't leave the battlefield together. As 90th quite rightly states this as all been covered before indepth. Very few of those that escaped were on foot, most were on horseback.
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Thanks

This I knew, but for more serious offenses such as desertion in the face of the enemy, there were platoons of executions ?

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Pascal, as 90th suggests, and has been suggested to you several times before, hit the SEARCH tab above and into the box that appears, type in any words that have occurrred to you such as "desertions," "colours" "melville" "coghill". It will save you a lot of time and prevent you from inventing new threads of previously covered/discussed topics.

Perhaps it is time for you (and CTSG) to call a 48 hour moratorium on posting and merely to look up and read, before the 2 of you start annoying each other and both end up in the ring again. Salute
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Personally I think all new topics that warrant the same information that as already been discussed should be deleted. There is nothing preventing anyone form adding to an all ready existing topic.
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littlehand wrote:
Personally I think all new topics that warrant the same information that as already been discussed should be deleted. There is nothing preventing anyone form adding to an all ready existing topic.



......or at least merged with the original thread. Poor Admin!
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All subjects in this war have been seen and reviewed, it is by restarting that we can support forum and new members can give their opinion ...

If this forum touched all the colonial wars, it will not come back on ancient subjects, so there would be many other topics...

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Agree with Littlehand , to many topics being rehashed .
Cheers 90th. Salute
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No ,because all subjects on this war have been seen and reviewed on this forum...

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