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PostSubject: Some guidance please....................   Some guidance please.................... EmptyThu Sep 27, 2012 3:12 pm

Greetings,

As a new member, (first actual post), I thought a brief bit of background would not go amiss. I am a landscape photographer based in Underberg, KwaZulu-Natal and have a passionate interest in the AZW. - particularly Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. in the near future I will be marketing a series of three panoramic prints relating to the battles (can't go into any detail right now). I will however post details on the forum soon!

For the sake of accuracy, I would appreciate some input on the following:-

1. During the battle of Isandlwana, in Lord Chelmsford's absence, Pulleine was in charge. What is the correct terminology - Officer in charge - commanding officer ?

2. At Rorke's Drift was Chard the officer in charge or commanding officer? Was Bromhead the second in command or did he share command? I don't mean to be pedantic but I need to use the correct term.
Your input would be greatly appreciated.

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Lawrie.
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PostSubject: Re: Some guidance please....................   Some guidance please.................... EmptyThu Sep 27, 2012 5:15 pm

Salute Hi welcome to the forum. Looking forward to the panoramic photograph details..

Both titles would have been ( Officer Commanding). For Chard and Pulliene.
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PostSubject: Re: Some guidance please....................   Some guidance please.................... EmptyThu Sep 27, 2012 7:09 pm

Agree with John, Puleine and Chard OC s.
Bromhead was 2i/c to Chard, they did not sgare command. Both Lieutenants, but Chard was senior by date of appointment so was OC.
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PostSubject: Re: Some guidance please....................   Some guidance please.................... EmptyFri Sep 28, 2012 5:54 am

Thanks for the replies John and Tasker.

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PostSubject: Re: Some guidance please....................   Some guidance please.................... EmptyFri Sep 28, 2012 2:31 pm

There is some discussion, particularly from Mike Snook, regarding whether Col Durnford was, or was supposed to be, in charge at Isandhlwana. Pulleine was left in charge of the camp, but Durnford was the senior officer, so (following Snook), he was obligated to take command once he arrived there on the morning of the battle, and Pulleine was obligated to defer to him. Durnford essentially said he would act independently and wouldn't impact on the camp command, but then pulled troops out of the camp to support his initial engagement. Snook places much of the operational culpability for the loss of the camp on Durnford, precisely because of the confusion over command.
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PostSubject: Re: Some guidance please....................   Some guidance please.................... EmptyFri Sep 28, 2012 5:38 pm

Snook would, of course.
As a colonel in the same regiment as Pulleine, Snook writes with an agenda. To protect the honour of his regiment and all those who serve and served in it
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Hi Lawrie,
Welcome to a fellow Underberger.
See my pm.

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PostSubject: Some Guidance Please ..............   Some guidance please.................... EmptyFri Sep 28, 2012 11:36 pm

Hi Lawrie .
Again welcome abourd , hope you enjoy your time scrolling through all the info that's on here . Looking forward to seeing your completed project . Salute
Cheers 90th.
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