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Subject: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:51 am
Hello to all
What was the uniform worn by the Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin at Rorke's Drift ?
Cheers
Pascal
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Subject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:18 pm
No answers for that ?
old historian2
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Subject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:49 pm
Perhaps because know one knows?
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Subject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:58 pm
Let's just say that nobody knows ...
John
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Subject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:43 pm
Have alook around, see if you can find out, then let us know.
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Subject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:04 am
If it continued like this, I'm going to make the same uniform as Bournes for him.
The1stLt
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Subject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:10 pm
Pascal MAHE wrote:
If it continued like this, I'm going to make the same uniform as Bournes for him.
What I've found out to date Pascal is the following that was worn by other-ranks assigned to General Staffs and Colour-Sergeant Maybin may have worn any of the variations. Thanks to John Young for providing me with the following information............The1stLt
Most of the Staff Corps other-ranks I have seen and it is not many are wearing the other-ranks patrol jackets.Basically it was a patrol jacket of a cheaper make than the officers' pattern with no frogging.However, as we know they wore a tunic or a frock as well, due the find at Isandlwana. I believe that was scarlet with blue collars and cuffs with the Imperial crown worn as the collar badge.
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Subject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:24 pm
Ok thank you ...
- And the red stripes on his tunic were the same as those of a colour - Sergeant of the 24 th?
- And his shoulder straps on his red tunic, were the same as those of a colour - Sergeant of the 24 th?
- And his cuff designs on his red tunic, are formed by a white tap braid coming to a point before forming a trefoil knot as those of a colour - Sergeant of the 24 th?
- And his armament and equipment as those of a color - Sergeant of the 24 th? (rifle + ammunition pouches + bayonet)
I have the same problem for the single company pioneer of the British infantry in zululand , uniform, equipment and weapons, ect ...
Cheers
Pascal
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Subject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:48 am
Please person possesses photos or illustrations for the uniformof the Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin to at Rorke's Drift ?
Cheers
Rascal
John Young
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Subject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:06 pm
Pascal,
This is the uniform I was describing to Joe:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Sergeant - Gymnastic Instructor, wearing an other-ranks patrol jacket circa 1881. John Young Collection.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] A Staff Sergeant, wearing an other-ranks patrol jacket, early 1880's John Young Collection.
The three chevrons and a crown as above would have been the rank insignia as worn by Mabin.
As to weapons and equipment I imagine whatever was available. Mabin's equipment was pen and paper.
I will post the scarlet uniform of sergeant on the Staff along with details of Pioneers' uniform and equipment in another post.
John Y.
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Subject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:30 am
Thank you once again John
As to weapons and equipment I imagine that at RD The Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin took the MH and equipment of a infantryman ...
You'll post the scarlet uniform of a sergeant on the staff along with details of Pioneers' uniform and equipment in Reviews in another post.
This is great! Especially for the uniform of a every single pioneer of each infantry company at Isandhwana...
Pascal
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Subject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:48 pm
Bravo Pascal !
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Subject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:54 am
On December 4, 2013, John wrote "I will post the scarlet uniform of sergeant on the Staff along with details of Pioneers' uniform and equipment in another post."
Please John, I would prefer that you do it on this topic, thank you.
But s others can post color illustrations on this topic, thank you.
Pascal Who is back after years of absence ...
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Subject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:47 am
The Rascal Returns!
Here are the Pioneers of 2nd Battalion, 24th (2nd Warwickshire) Regiment photographed at Pinetown, Natal, in September 1879.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] (John Young Collection.)
I will see if I can find the Staff Corps photograph over the next few days.
JY
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Subject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:07 am
Hi John, Yes the Rascal Returns! Thanks for the photos which are always useful, I would also like to see a color illustration for the uniform worn by the Color - Sergeant George William Mabin at Rorke's Drift, can't even find some illustrations? Thanks.
Cheers
Pascal
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Subject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin Sat May 01, 2021 3:16 pm
Hi Everyone,
I can't find anything on the internet ... Does anyone have anything in color concerning the uniform of the General Staff Corps 1566 Color-Sergeant George William Mabin?
Cheers,
Pascal
John Young
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Subject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin Sat May 01, 2021 4:19 pm
Pascal,
Let’s be honest we don’t actually know what Chard & Bromhead were wearing during the Defence of Rorke’s Drift, it is pure supposition.
As to Mabin I would speculate that he was wearing an other-ranks patrol jacket as illustrated by my photographs above. Rank insignia would have been three gold chevrons surmounted by a Crown as the second photograph showing the other-ranks patrol jacket.
JY
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Subject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin Sat May 01, 2021 6:15 pm
John,
Okay, thank you anyway, but it's still weird that there isn't a single color illustration even in a book even in a book for wargamers.