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PostSubject: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin   Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin EmptyWed Oct 24, 2012 8:51 am

Hello to all

What was the uniform worn by the Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin at Rorke's Drift ?

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PostSubject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin   Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin EmptyFri Nov 09, 2012 9:18 pm

No answers for that ?
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PostSubject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin   Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin EmptyFri Nov 09, 2012 9:49 pm

Perhaps because know one knows?
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PostSubject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin   Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin EmptyFri Nov 09, 2012 9:58 pm

Let's just say that nobody knows ...
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PostSubject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin   Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin EmptySun Nov 11, 2012 8:43 pm

Have alook around, see if you can find out, then let us know.
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PostSubject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin   Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin EmptyMon Nov 12, 2012 7:04 am

If it continued like this, I'm going to make the same uniform as Bournes for him.
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PostSubject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin   Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin EmptyMon Nov 12, 2012 1:10 pm

Pascal MAHE wrote:
If it continued like this, I'm going to make the same uniform as Bournes for him.

What I've found out to date Pascal is the following that was worn by other-ranks assigned to General Staffs and Colour-Sergeant Maybin may have worn any of the variations. Thanks to John Young for providing me with the following information............The1stLt

Most of the Staff Corps other-ranks I have seen and it is not many are wearing the other-ranks patrol jackets.Basically it was a patrol jacket of a cheaper make than the officers' pattern with no frogging.However, as we know they wore a tunic or a frock as well, due the find at Isandlwana. I believe that was scarlet with blue collars and cuffs with the Imperial crown worn as the collar badge.
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PostSubject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin   Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin EmptyMon Nov 12, 2012 3:24 pm

Ok thank you ...

- And the red stripes on his tunic were the same as those of a colour - Sergeant of the 24 th?

- And his shoulder straps on his red tunic, were the same as those of a colour - Sergeant of the 24 th?

- And his cuff designs on his red tunic, are formed by a white tap braid coming to a point before forming a trefoil knot as those of a colour - Sergeant of the 24 th?

- And his armament and equipment as those of a color - Sergeant of the 24 th? (rifle + ammunition pouches + bayonet)


I have the same problem for the single company pioneer of the British infantry in zululand , uniform, equipment and weapons, ect ...

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PostSubject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin   Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 7:48 am

Please person possesses photos or illustrations for the uniformof the Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin to at Rorke's Drift ?

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PostSubject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin   Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 9:06 pm

Pascal,

This is the uniform I was describing to Joe:

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Sergeant - Gymnastic Instructor, wearing an other-ranks patrol jacket circa 1881.
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A Staff Sergeant, wearing an other-ranks patrol jacket, early 1880's
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The three chevrons and a crown as above would have been the rank insignia as worn by Mabin.

As to weapons and equipment I imagine whatever was available. Mabin's equipment was pen and paper.

I will post the scarlet uniform of sergeant on the Staff along with details of Pioneers' uniform and equipment in another post.

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PostSubject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin   Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin EmptyThu Dec 05, 2013 6:30 am

Thank you once again John

As to weapons and equipment I imagine that at RD The Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin took the MH and equipment of a infantryman ...

You'll post the scarlet uniform of a sergeant on the staff along with details of Pioneers' uniform and equipment in Reviews in another post.

This is great! Especially for the uniform of a every single pioneer of each infantry company at Isandhwana...

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PostSubject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin   Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin EmptySat Aug 22, 2020 5:48 pm

Bravo Pascal !
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PostSubject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin   Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin EmptySun Apr 11, 2021 10:54 am

On December 4, 2013, John wrote "I will post the scarlet uniform of sergeant on the Staff along with details of Pioneers' uniform and equipment in another post."

Please John, I would prefer that you do it on this topic, thank you.

But s others can post color illustrations on this topic, thank you.

Pascal Who is back after years of absence ...
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PostSubject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin   Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin EmptyMon Apr 12, 2021 10:47 am

The Rascal Returns!

Here are the Pioneers of 2nd Battalion, 24th (2nd Warwickshire) Regiment photographed at Pinetown, Natal, in September 1879.

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I will see if I can find the Staff Corps photograph over the next few days.

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PostSubject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin   Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin EmptyMon Apr 12, 2021 11:07 am

Hi John,
Yes the Rascal Returns!
Thanks for the photos which are always useful, I would also like to see a color illustration for the uniform worn by the Color - Sergeant George William Mabin at Rorke's Drift, can't even find some illustrations? Thanks.

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PostSubject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin   Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin EmptySat May 01, 2021 3:16 pm

Hi Everyone,

I can't find anything on the internet ... Does anyone have anything in color concerning the uniform of the General Staff Corps 1566 Color-Sergeant George William Mabin?

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PostSubject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin   Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin EmptySat May 01, 2021 4:19 pm

Pascal,

Let’s be honest we don’t actually know what Chard & Bromhead were wearing during the Defence of Rorke’s Drift, it is pure supposition.

As to Mabin I would speculate that he was wearing an other-ranks patrol jacket as illustrated by my photographs above. Rank insignia would have been three gold chevrons surmounted by a Crown as the second photograph showing the other-ranks patrol jacket.

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PostSubject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin   Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin EmptySat May 01, 2021 6:15 pm

John,

Okay, thank you anyway, but it's still weird that there isn't a single color illustration even in a book even in a book for wargamers.

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