Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin

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Hello to all

What was the uniform worn by the Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin at Rorke's Drift ?

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Pascal

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No answers for that ?

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Perhaps because know one knows?

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Let's just say that nobody knows ...

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Have alook around, see if you can find out, then let us know.

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If it continued like this, I'm going to make the same uniform as Bournes for him.

Subject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:10 pm

Pascal MAHE wrote:: If it continued like this, I'm going to make the same uniform as Bournes for him.

What I've found out to date Pascal is the following that was worn by other-ranks assigned to General Staffs and Colour-Sergeant Maybin may have worn any of the variations. Thanks to John Young for providing me with the following information............The1stLt

Most of the Staff Corps other-ranks I have seen and it is not many are wearing the other-ranks patrol jackets.Basically it was a patrol jacket of a cheaper make than the officers' pattern with no frogging.However, as we know they wore a tunic or a frock as well, due the find at Isandlwana. I believe that was scarlet with blue collars and cuffs with the Imperial crown worn as the collar badge.

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Ok thank you ...

- And the red stripes on his tunic were the same as those of a colour - Sergeant of the 24 th?

- And his shoulder straps on his red tunic, were the same as those of a colour - Sergeant of the 24 th?

- And his cuff designs on his red tunic, are formed by a white tap braid coming to a point before forming a trefoil knot as those of a colour - Sergeant of the 24 th?

- And his armament and equipment as those of a color - Sergeant of the 24 th? (rifle + ammunition pouches + bayonet)

I have the same problem for the single company pioneer of the British infantry in zululand , uniform, equipment and weapons, ect ...

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Pascal

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Please person possesses photos or illustrations for the uniformof the Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin to at Rorke's Drift ?

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Rascal

Subject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:06 pm

Pascal,

This is the uniform I was describing to Joe:

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Sergeant - Gymnastic Instructor, wearing an other-ranks patrol jacket circa 1881.
John Young Collection.

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A Staff Sergeant, wearing an other-ranks patrol jacket, early 1880's
John Young Collection.

The three chevrons and a crown as above would have been the rank insignia as worn by Mabin.

As to weapons and equipment I imagine whatever was available. Mabin's equipment was pen and paper.

I will post the scarlet uniform of sergeant on the Staff along with details of Pioneers' uniform and equipment in another post.

John Y.

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Thank you once again John

As to weapons and equipment I imagine that at RD The Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin took the MH and equipment of a infantryman ...

You'll post the scarlet uniform of a sergeant on the staff along with details of Pioneers' uniform and equipment in Reviews in another post.

This is great! Especially for the uniform of a every single pioneer of each infantry company at Isandhwana...

Pascal

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Bravo Pascal !

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On December 4, 2013, John wrote "I will post the scarlet uniform of sergeant on the Staff along with details of Pioneers' uniform and equipment in another post."

Please John, I would prefer that you do it on this topic, thank you.

But s others can post color illustrations on this topic, thank you.

Pascal Who is back after years of absence ...

Subject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:47 am

The Rascal Returns!

Here are the Pioneers of 2nd Battalion, 24th (2nd Warwickshire) Regiment photographed at Pinetown, Natal, in September 1879.

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(John Young Collection.)

I will see if I can find the Staff Corps photograph over the next few days.

JY

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Hi John,
Yes the Rascal Returns!
Thanks for the photos which are always useful, I would also like to see a color illustration for the uniform worn by the Color - Sergeant George William Mabin at Rorke's Drift, can't even find some illustrations? Thanks.

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Pascal

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Hi Everyone,

I can't find anything on the internet ... Does anyone have anything in color concerning the uniform of the General Staff Corps 1566 Color-Sergeant George William Mabin?

Cheers,

Pascal

Subject: Re: Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin Sat May 01, 2021 4:19 pm

Pascal,

Let’s be honest we don’t actually know what Chard & Bromhead were wearing during the Defence of Rorke’s Drift, it is pure supposition.

As to Mabin I would speculate that he was wearing an other-ranks patrol jacket as illustrated by my photographs above. Rank insignia would have been three gold chevrons surmounted by a Crown as the second photograph showing the other-ranks patrol jacket.

JY

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John,

Okay, thank you anyway, but it's still weird that there isn't a single color illustration even in a book even in a book for wargamers.

The Rascal