WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM

Film Zulu Quote:Lieutenant John Chard: The army doesn't like more than one disaster in a day. Lieutenant Gonville Bromhead: Looks bad in the newspapers and upsets civilians at their breakfast..
 
HomeHome  GalleryGallery  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
» Best book on colonial soldiers during zulu war
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyToday at 5:23 pm by ciroferrara

» Captain Robert Julian Orde Jocelyn 8th Reg
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyYesterday at 12:19 pm by gardner1879

» Sergeant E Wilson
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyYesterday at 9:30 am by gardner1879

» 1940 Review of 'Lord Chelmsford and the Zulu War'
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyTue May 24, 2022 12:53 pm by gardner1879

» H.M.S. Forester
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyTue May 24, 2022 2:55 am by 90th

» Royal Small Arms Repair Factory - Pimlico / Mill Bank , London
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyWed May 18, 2022 2:04 pm by MPS1

» Deafness linked to the effects of battle
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyMon May 16, 2022 1:56 pm by Younghusband

» Brevet Major Walter Parke Jones, R. E.
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptySun May 15, 2022 7:29 pm by ADMIN

» Zulu campfires
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptySun May 08, 2022 11:28 am by John Young

» Stations of Regiments mid 1870's (UK)
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptySun May 08, 2022 11:26 am by John Young

» Nevill Coghill's nephew
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyFri Apr 29, 2022 10:09 am by Julian Whybra

» Uniform - Natal Circa 1895?
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptySun Apr 24, 2022 11:44 am by Rory Reynolds

» Isandlwana solving the enigma
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyFri Apr 22, 2022 2:48 pm by Julian Whybra

» John Wyndon Lyon
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyThu Apr 21, 2022 6:38 pm by Julian Whybra

» No. 1488 Color Sergeant A. Spalding
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyTue Apr 19, 2022 9:35 pm by John Young

» Pin pointing an ASC man's war
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptySat Apr 16, 2022 12:55 pm by Rory Reynolds

» Trooper David Doig, father-in-law Trooper Robert Adams
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyMon Apr 11, 2022 3:42 pm by Julian Whybra

» Pte 922 George Edwards (Alias Orchard) and Pte 2744 Charles Moore
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyWed Apr 06, 2022 7:47 pm by 1879graves

» 4709 Gunner Ernest Jones N/5 R.A.
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyWed Apr 06, 2022 12:33 pm by Woolwich

» Frederick Montague 83728 RN HMS Boadicea 1879 (Missing 1914/15 Star and Victory Medal)
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyTue Apr 05, 2022 11:48 pm by OC1

» Updated List of Royal Navy Medals Known to Exist
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyMon Apr 04, 2022 8:31 pm by Petty Officer Tom

» The Mystery of the Missing Mainwaring Material
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyMon Apr 04, 2022 5:03 pm by WeekendWarrior

» Looking for the medal to 1423 Pte. W. Gregg/Greig
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyFri Apr 01, 2022 6:54 pm by Kenny

» Help Please
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyThu Mar 31, 2022 6:01 pm by John Young

» James Hamer testimony concerning time and distance
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyWed Mar 30, 2022 11:56 pm by aussie inkosi

» Barker and the Rocket Battery
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyMon Mar 28, 2022 12:15 pm by Frank Allewell

» Renamed medals?
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyMon Mar 28, 2022 6:40 am by 90th

» S.SMITH Buffalo Border Guard
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptySat Mar 26, 2022 7:47 am by Brett Hendey

» Seeking Primary Sources
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyThu Mar 24, 2022 8:46 am by aussie inkosi

» Dead Was Everything: Studies in the Anglo-Zulu War. Keith Smith
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyThu Mar 24, 2022 7:21 am by aussie inkosi

» Pte H Brown 6th Lanc Fus
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptySun Mar 20, 2022 11:11 pm by Sturgy

» ‘Isandula Mountain, Zululand’
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyTue Mar 15, 2022 11:43 am by Julian Whybra

» Private MJ Flood 57th Foot
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyMon Mar 14, 2022 7:25 pm by Alfie

» Richie's new Zulu War model figure project - cast your vote now
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptySun Mar 13, 2022 11:06 pm by PhilJ

» Natal Witness 'mystery' death notice
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptySun Mar 13, 2022 9:29 am by Julian Whybra

Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
The Battle of Isandlwana: From above
Top posters
90th
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_leftWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana BarWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_leftWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana BarWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_right 
littlehand
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_leftWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana BarWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_right 
ADMIN
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_leftWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana BarWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_right 
1879graves
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_leftWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana BarWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_right 
rusteze
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_leftWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana BarWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_right 
Julian Whybra
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_leftWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana BarWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_right 
Chelmsfordthescapegoat
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_leftWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana BarWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_right 
John
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_leftWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana BarWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_right 
Mr M. Cooper
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_leftWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana BarWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_right 
Top posting users this month
John Young
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_leftWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana BarWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_right 
ciroferrara
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_leftWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana BarWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_right 
90th
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_leftWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana BarWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_leftWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana BarWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_right 
Herbie
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_leftWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana BarWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_right 
Bill8183
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_leftWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana BarWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_right 
gardner1879
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_leftWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana BarWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_right 
Younghusband
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_leftWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana BarWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_right 
ADMIN
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_leftWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana BarWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_right 
MPS1
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_leftWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana BarWhy did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Bar_right 
Most active topics
Durnford was he capable.1
Durnford was he capable. 4
Durnford was he capable.5
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Isandlwana, Last Stands
The ammunition question
Durnford was he capable. 3
Durnford was he capable.2
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Most Viewed Topics
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Adding to the Library
The ammunition question
ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS
Recent Members To The ZULU WAR 1879 Discussion & Reference Forum ( A Small Victorian War in 1879)
Durnford was he capable.5
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Lieutenant Adendorff 1-3 N.N.C.
Fair Use Notice
Fair use notice. This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner. We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website. If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution.
Keywords
Police Mounted Prince james Franklin Woolfryes harford carbineers spalding Durnford taylor zulu drift brown martini Russell 24th George Isandlwana Natal horse payne henry john william smith
 

 Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana

Go down 
5 posters
AuthorMessage
Ray63

Ray63


Posts : 706
Join date : 2012-05-05

Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Empty
PostSubject: Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana   Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyFri Nov 02, 2012 10:11 pm

Was the lost of the camp at Isandlwana the real reason Lord Chelmsford wanted to relinquish his command, Surly it would have been the worst thing he could have done in view of what happened and his implication into the disaster. Did someone change his mind., better to carry on and do your best to rectify the problem before returning to England!!
Back to top Go down
Drummer Boy 14

Drummer Boy 14


Posts : 2008
Join date : 2011-08-01
Age : 25

Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Empty
PostSubject: Re: Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana   Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyFri Nov 02, 2012 10:16 pm

Chelmsford relinquished command after the battle of Ulundi, not Isandlwana, he also had no choice in the matter, as
he was sacked and replaced with Worsely.




Cheers
Back to top Go down
90th

90th


Posts : 10473
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 66
Location : Melbourne, Australia

Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Empty
PostSubject: Why did Lord C'ford relinguish command after the battle of Isandlwana    Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyFri Nov 02, 2012 10:23 pm

Hi Ray63.
I dont know where you found that statement but Chelmesford certainly didnt want to relinquish his command after Isandlwana
as far as I'm aware , he actually fought tooth and nail to finish the war as quickly as possible , as he was recalled and Wolseley was sent to take command , C'ford gave no thought to handing over until he'd beaten the zulu to make up in some way his ealier defeat at Isandlwana . Happy to be corrected .
Cheers 90th.
Back to top Go down
Ray63

Ray63


Posts : 706
Join date : 2012-05-05

Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Empty
PostSubject: Re: Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana   Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyFri Nov 02, 2012 11:36 pm

I'm sure I read somewhere that Lord Chelmsford asked for a replacement to be sent out, to replace him. I will have another look for the source...
Back to top Go down
90th

90th


Posts : 10473
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 66
Location : Melbourne, Australia

Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Empty
PostSubject: Why did Lord C'ford relinquish his command after the battle of Isandlwana   Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyFri Nov 02, 2012 11:45 pm

Hi Ray63.
I'm certain he asked for more Lt - Colonels either before the invasion and he certainly did after Isandlwana from memory , happy to be corrected . Salute
Cheers 90th.
Back to top Go down
Chelmsfordthescapegoat

Chelmsfordthescapegoat


Posts : 2594
Join date : 2009-04-24

Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Empty
PostSubject: Re: Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana   Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptySun Nov 04, 2012 8:18 am

Ray. You are correct. The Good Lord did request to be replaced. Due to Exhaustion, I will dig out the source later.
Back to top Go down
90th

90th


Posts : 10473
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 66
Location : Melbourne, Australia

Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Empty
PostSubject: Why did Lord Chelmesforsd relinquish his command after the battle of Isand.   Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptySun Nov 04, 2012 11:38 am

Hi CTSG.
I hope you can find it because I've just spent an hour going over the Good Lord's own correspondance in ' Lord Chelmesford's Zululand Campaign of 1878 - 1879 ' by J. Laband . The closest thing that I found that Chelmesford wrote about relinquishing his command was written by him to Colonel F.A. Stanley , on the 10th June, from a camp on the upoko River in Zululand . Page 190
and I quote ......'' I can only look upon the paragraph of your letter which touches upon the possibility of an officer of superior rank being sent out to command the forces under my orders should three more regiments still be demanded in the light of a threat . If I am fit to command 17,000 men in the field I cannot understand by what powers of reasoning I am not equal to command 20,000. Rest assured however that should her majesty's Govt and the Duke Of Cambridge come to the conclusion that they no longer have confidence in me as Commander of the forces , I shall be quite ready to serve in a more subordinate capacity under whomsoever may be selected to succeed me '' . End of quote . If the Chelmesford had said he intented to resign earlier I'm sure Laband would have included the said article in his book . scratch
Cheers 90th.
Back to top Go down
littlehand

littlehand


Posts : 7077
Join date : 2009-04-24
Age : 53
Location : Down South.

Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Empty
PostSubject: Re: Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana   Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyMon Nov 05, 2012 8:42 pm

90th have you got " Lord Chelmsford's Zululand Campaign 1878-1879" if you have take alook at page 102. Let me know your thoughts.
Back to top Go down
90th

90th


Posts : 10473
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 66
Location : Melbourne, Australia

Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Empty
PostSubject: Why did Lord Chelmesford relinquish his command after the battle of Isandlwana   Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyMon Nov 05, 2012 9:39 pm

Hi Littlehand .
I got an email from Springbok so I checked the book you mentioned again this morning , I must have missed it yesterday !.
Chelmesford does say that in June 78 the strain was telling on him , and in this letter , dated 9th Feb 1879 he's feeling the same way but even more so !. But , did he officially say he wanted out to the Duke Of Cambridge ? . I cant find any official correspondance to say so , he may have hinted at it , but I'm not to sure he followed it through with a letter of proposed resignation ??.
Cheers 90th.
Back to top Go down
littlehand

littlehand


Posts : 7077
Join date : 2009-04-24
Age : 53
Location : Down South.

Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Empty
PostSubject: Re: Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana   Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyMon Nov 05, 2012 10:16 pm

I do beleive he did. Annoying thing is the letter is here on the forum somewhere. scratch
Back to top Go down
90th

90th


Posts : 10473
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 66
Location : Melbourne, Australia

Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Empty
PostSubject: Why did Lord Chelmesford relinquish his command after the battle of Isandlwana   Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyMon Nov 05, 2012 10:32 pm

Hi Littlehand .
Here is that part of the letter written by Chelmesford to Colonel F.A.Stanley from Durban 9 / 2 / 79 .
I quote .............'' In June last I mentioned privately to His Royal Highness the F.M. Comd in chief (71) that the strain of prolonged anxiety & exertion , physical & Mental was even then telling on me - What I felt then , I feel still more now . '' . Unquote .

71 - Duke of Cambrige .
Back to top Go down
littlehand

littlehand


Posts : 7077
Join date : 2009-04-24
Age : 53
Location : Down South.

Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana Empty
PostSubject: Re: Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana   Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana EmptyMon Nov 05, 2012 10:57 pm

That's the one I have, but there is another, an MP makes reference to his request in the house of commons. I did read on the other forum, a reference to this from "John Young" but nw I can't find that.
Back to top Go down
 
Why did Lord Chelmsford Relinquish his command, after the Battle of Isandlwana
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» Who was most culpable for the defeat at the Battle Of Isandlwana: Was Lord Chelmsford , Col Glyn, Col Pulleine, or Col Durnford.
» Lord Chelmsford question in the house of commons 02 September 1880 regarding the Battle of Isandlwana.
» Lord Chelmsford as a Commander
» Lord Chelmsford.
» Lord Chelmsford question in the house of commons 02 September 1880 regarding the Battle of Isandlwana.

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM  :: GENERAL DISCUSSION AREA-
Jump to: