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![civil surgeon giles Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: civil surgeon giles Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:54 pm | |
| Is the medal on ebay to civil surgeon b f giles agood buy at £999 a far price ,notice a small hole on letter "s" of surname or engraving error , details with medal seem to be all wrong anyone help me with this cheers |
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![civil surgeon giles Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: civil surgeon giles Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:16 pm | |
| Here's the link.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ZULU-WAR-MEDAL-DOCTOR-AT-SEIGE-OF-ESHOWE-MEDAL-AND-CLASP-CONFIRMED-/221170011250?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item337ec28c72
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![civil surgeon giles Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: civil surgeon giles Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:54 pm | |
| Haven't got a lot of time tonight. Can't find anything on this chap. Perhaps someone can...
Hear are the names of medical officers taken from "Narrative of the Field Operations Connected with the Zulu War of 1879"
COMPOSITION OF COLUMNS AND DISTRIBUTION OF TROOPS ON 11 JANUARY, 1879
Head-quarter Staff: Principal Medical Officer, Deputy Surgeon-General WOODFRYES, C.B., M.D. [* see below]
No. 1 Column; Staff: Senior Medical Officer, Surgeon-Major TARRANT
No. 2 Column; Staff: Senior Medical Officer, Civil Surgeon CARTWRIGHT REED
No. 3 Column; Staff: Senior Medical Officer, Surgeon-Major SHEPHERD
No. 4 Column, Staff: Senior Medical Officer, Surgeon-Major CUFFE
No. 5 Column, Staff: Senior Medical Officer, Surgeon-Major JOHNSON
LINE OF COMMUNICATIONS: Greytown-Helpmakaar; Staff: Senior Medical Officer, Surgeon-Major INGHAM
Base of Operations, Durban; Staff: Senior Medical Officer, Surgeon JENNINGS
STATE OF SOUTH AFRICAN FIELD FORCE, END OF MAY, 1879 [Headquarters]: Principal Medical Officer: Surgeon-General WOOLFRYES, C.B. [* see below] Surgeon attached to Headquarters Staff: Surgeon-Major SCOTT Chief Staff Veterinary Surgeon: Inspecting Veterinary Surgeon, T.P. GUDGIN
[* This man's surname is spelled both ways in the text]
1st Division: Principal Medical Officer, Surgeon-Major T. TARRANT
2nd Division: Principal Medical Officer, Surgeon-Major A. SEMPLE
Brigadier-General Wood's Flying Column: Principal Medical Officer, Surge-Major CUFFE
Staff Officers of Lines of Communication and Base: Senior Medical Officer at base, Surgeon-Major WILLS, Durban Principal Veterinary Surgeon, Inspecting Veterinary Surgeon, T.P. GUDGIN Principal Medical Officer, Deputy Surgeon-General HOLLOWAY, Pietermaritzburg
DISTRIBUTION OF THE TROOPS AND STAFF IN SOUTH AFRICA, 26th JULY, 1879
General Staff: Principal Medical Officer, Surgeon-General WOOLFRYES, C.B., M.D. Inspecting Veterinary Surgeon, Inspecting Veterinary Surgeon T. P. GUDGIN
Clarke's Column: Senior Medical Officer, Surgeon-Major GIRAUD, M.D.
Baker Russell's Column: Senior Medical Officer, Surgeon-Major CUFFE
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![civil surgeon giles Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: civil surgeon giles Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:13 pm | |
| I would ask the seller for more information on what research comes with the medal, in order to satisfy yourself that he was present with Pearson's column; also, confirm the medal entitlement by enquiring as to his medal roll entry. I have looked carefully at the naming and the naming looks authentic to me and not renamed; but it is difficult to guarantee that without handling the medal. The list of medics LH posted does not include him, but that is not a deal breaker. However, i would like to see his name on a roll somewhere!?!? The price is very fair, if the research confirms his entitlement to the medal and confirms the stories that come with the medal. Medals to surgeons are very sought after by collectors, who also happen to be doctors, who also happen to be not short of a bob or two! |
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![civil surgeon giles Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: civil surgeon giles Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:51 pm | |
| LH's post re the details of surgeon GMJ Giles is interesting in that the surname is the same? More questions arise. |
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![civil surgeon giles Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: civil surgeon giles Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:02 pm | |
| Has been on eBay before, Didn't sell ![Suspect](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/suspect.gif) And no starting price! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ZULU-WAR-MEDAL-DOCTOR-AT-SEIGE-OF-ESHOWE-MEDAL-AND-CLASP-CONFIRMED-/221169150878?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item337eb56b9e Posted by John 24th Dec 12
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![civil surgeon giles Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Civil Surgeon Giles Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:03 pm | |
| Hi All . I think it may be a fiar price but must admit I was hoping to get it for much less when it was posted on ebay earlier , it was delisted at 350 GBP'S and relisted at 999 GBP'S , there were a couple more on here that were also showing interest so it may go for more than its listed price. I can confirm B.F. Giles is in the Forsyth Medal Roll , under Army Medical Department - Civil Surgeon . cheers 90th. |
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![civil surgeon giles Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Civil Surgeon Giles Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:04 pm | |
| Littlehand we posted the same time , read my post . 90th . |
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