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    PostSubject: Friends or allies?    Friends or allies? EmptyTue Feb 19, 2013 10:28 am

    Hi all

    The Zulus have friends or allies (besides Pedis) among the independent black nations in 1879 ?

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    PostSubject: Re: Friends or allies?    Friends or allies? EmptyMon Mar 04, 2013 7:05 am

    Zulu king saw the coming war has not tried initiated diplomatic contacts with future or former victims of the British, to create a diversion?

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    PostSubject: Re: Friends or allies?    Friends or allies? EmptyWed Apr 03, 2013 7:20 am

    The Zulus had no diplomatic service ?
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    PostSubject: Re: Friends or allies?    Friends or allies? EmptyWed Apr 03, 2013 7:26 am

    Pascal
    Your first post
    No they were hated.
    Your second post
    Yes he did on a number of occasions
    Your third post
    The 'diplomatic service' was sent to listen ti the terms and conditions at the Tugela meeting.

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    Any entreaties made by the Zulu were ignored by Chelmsford. He wasnt interested in listening.

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    PostSubject: Re: Friends or allies?    Friends or allies? EmptyWed Apr 03, 2013 7:46 am

    The Zulus were hated by all the other black nations ?

    But those who hated whites could help !

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    PostSubject: Re: Friends or allies?    Friends or allies? EmptyWed Apr 03, 2013 8:16 am

    Rascal.
    I'm sure you have read enough on the Zulu Warriors to realise they were disliked by all those who were not part
    of the Zulu Nation. The Zulu's as you are well aware didnt make friends ! , but by being warlike and damn good at it ,
    they were hated and feared by the other Black nations as you put it , as Springbok has already posted . Some of the black races didnt like the whites as you say , but they most likely werent as afraid of them as compared to the zulu army.
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    PostSubject: Re: Friends or allies?    Friends or allies? EmptyWed Apr 03, 2013 8:22 am

    Yes Skippy, but they would have to understand that whites were more dangerous to them than the Zulus ... Salute

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    PostSubject: Re: Friends or allies?    Friends or allies? EmptyWed Apr 03, 2013 8:37 am

    Rascal
    history proves that these Black Nations didnt think that was the case ! . If they thought the Whites were worse they surely would've combined and done something about it , but they didnt ! .
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    PostSubject: Re: Friends or allies?    Friends or allies? EmptyWed Apr 03, 2013 9:12 am

    This is mainly because without energetic leader, men are sheep ...
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