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PostSubject: Never explosive shells    Never explosive shells  EmptyFri Mar 15, 2013 7:44 am

Hello

The Royal Artillery used Shrapnell and case shots in Zululand, but never explosive shells ...

Someone I can demonstrate otherwise ?

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PostSubject: Re: Never explosive shells    Never explosive shells  EmptyFri Mar 15, 2013 2:06 pm

Pascal,

What do you think that Shrapnel shells did?

To my limited knowledge - despite the fact my father was a former artilleryman - Shrapnel shells exploded in the air on a timed fuse and caused their intended damage.

'Jimu
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PostSubject: Re: Never explosive shells    Never explosive shells  EmptyFri Mar 15, 2013 4:57 pm

Pascal ???
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PostSubject: Re: Never explosive shells    Never explosive shells  EmptyFri Mar 15, 2013 5:09 pm

Warrior, the royal artillery had declared at this time, which would use its explosive shells, only against agglomerations, which is why she has not used in Zululand ...

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PostSubject: Re: Never explosive shells    Never explosive shells  EmptyFri Mar 15, 2013 5:45 pm

warrior wrote:
Hello

The Royal Artillery used Shrapnell and case shots in Zululand, but never explosive shells ...

Someone I can demonstrate otherwise ?

Warrior

Obviously, anti-personnel ordnance was the way to go.
HE shells would not have been necessary unless the targets required demolition or were armoured.
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PostSubject: Re: Never explosive shells    Never explosive shells  EmptySat Mar 16, 2013 7:16 am

Warrior

This is due to the tactics regulations of the RA that explosive shells were not used in Zululand .

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PostSubject: Re: Never explosive shells    Never explosive shells  EmptySat Mar 16, 2013 7:33 am

Tasker wrote in red:
HE shells Would not Have Been Necessary UNLESS targets required the demolition or Were armored.

Yet it is this that makes the difference in the war of 1870-71 because the German artillery used only percussive shells and theFrench artillery used only fusing shells.

At the very beginning of the war of 14-18, the BEF uses only Shrapnell which the desanvantage much ...

If RA had used 7 pdrs explosive shells in Zululand, it could shoot over 800 yards at Isandhlwana (or the 2 guns of the RA have not fired beyond 600 yards, according to the instructions of LC )and Zulu would not have loved it ...

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PostSubject: Re: Never explosive shells    Never explosive shells  EmptySat Mar 16, 2013 8:38 am

As the cannons at Isandlwann only fired 4 times, I doubt it would have made any difference to the outcome.
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PostSubject: Re: Never explosive shells    Never explosive shells  EmptySat Mar 16, 2013 8:43 am

Pascal will be telling us this was KEY to the defeat next!
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PostSubject: Re: Never explosive shells    Never explosive shells  EmptySat Mar 16, 2013 8:53 am

24 th wrote in red :As the cannons fired at Isandlwann only 4 times, I doubt it Would have made ​​difference to the outcome Any.

I thought that a Zulu participant had counted the number of shots of cannon and that there had been more ?

Tasker wrote in orange: Pascal will be telling us this was the KEY to defeat next!

I never say this, but the artillery was not much ...
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