Lieutenant John Chard: What's our strength? Lieutenant Gonville Bromhead: Seven officers including surgeon, commissaries and so on; Adendorff now I suppose; wounded and sick 36, fit for duty 97 and about 40 native levies. Not much of an army for you.
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Subject: Never explosive shells Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:44 am
Hello
The Royal Artillery used Shrapnell and case shots in Zululand, but never explosive shells ...
Someone I can demonstrate otherwise ?
Warrior
kwajimu1879
Posts : 420 Join date : 2011-05-14
Subject: Re: Never explosive shells Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:06 pm
Pascal,
What do you think that Shrapnel shells did?
To my limited knowledge - despite the fact my father was a former artilleryman - Shrapnel shells exploded in the air on a timed fuse and caused their intended damage.
'Jimu
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Subject: Re: Never explosive shells Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:57 pm
Pascal ???
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Subject: Re: Never explosive shells Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:09 pm
Warrior, the royal artillery had declared at this time, which would use its explosive shells, only against agglomerations, which is why she has not used in Zululand ...
Cheers
Pascal
tasker224
Posts : 2101 Join date : 2010-07-30 Age : 55 Location : North London
Subject: Re: Never explosive shells Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:45 pm
warrior wrote:
Hello
The Royal Artillery used Shrapnell and case shots in Zululand, but never explosive shells ...
Someone I can demonstrate otherwise ?
Warrior
Obviously, anti-personnel ordnance was the way to go. HE shells would not have been necessary unless the targets required demolition or were armoured.
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Subject: Re: Never explosive shells Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:16 am
Warrior
This is due to the tactics regulations of the RA that explosive shells were not used in Zululand .
Cheers
Pascal
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Subject: Re: Never explosive shells Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:33 am
Tasker wrote in red: HE shells Would not Have Been Necessary UNLESS targets required the demolition or Were armored.
Yet it is this that makes the difference in the war of 1870-71 because the German artillery used only percussive shells and theFrench artillery used only fusing shells.
At the very beginning of the war of 14-18, the BEF uses only Shrapnell which the desanvantage much ...
If RA had used 7 pdrs explosive shells in Zululand, it could shoot over 800 yards at Isandhlwana (or the 2 guns of the RA have not fired beyond 600 yards, according to the instructions of LC )and Zulu would not have loved it ...
Cheers
Pascal
24th
Posts : 1862 Join date : 2009-03-25
Subject: Re: Never explosive shells Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:38 am
As the cannons at Isandlwann only fired 4 times, I doubt it would have made any difference to the outcome.
tasker224
Posts : 2101 Join date : 2010-07-30 Age : 55 Location : North London
Subject: Re: Never explosive shells Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:43 am
Pascal will be telling us this was KEY to the defeat next!
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Subject: Re: Never explosive shells Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:53 am
24 th wrote in red :As the cannons fired at Isandlwann only 4 times, I doubt it Would have made difference to the outcome Any.
I thought that a Zulu participant had counted the number of shots of cannon and that there had been more ?
Tasker wrote in orange: Pascal will be telling us this was the KEY to defeat next!
I never say this, but the artillery was not much ...
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