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free1954
Posts : 182 Join date : 2012-02-16 Location : northeast usa
![To Qualify Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: To Qualify Sat May 11, 2013 12:37 pm | |
| what did it take for an infantryman to qualify with a martini henry rifle of the zulu war era? |
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![To Qualify Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: To Qualify Sun May 12, 2013 10:58 am | |
| I does not understand your question |
| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | kwajimu1879
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![To Qualify Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: To Qualify Sun May 12, 2013 3:23 pm | |
| Pascal,
I assume the question that 'free1954' has asked relates to the amount of weapons training and firing the soldiers undertook.
'Jimu |
| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | Mr M. Cooper
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![To Qualify Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: to qualify Sun May 12, 2013 3:48 pm | |
| Pascal.
I think Jimu is right about what free1954 is asking.
free1954.
Maybe a good man to answer your question would be Neil Aspinshaw (a member of this forum). He is an expert on the Martini Henry rifle and he is also a member of the Die Hard Company, and they re-enact everything 'as it was' back then, so Neil would be the man to know what sort of weapons training the men had to undertake back in 1879. |
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![To Qualify Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: To Qualify Sun May 12, 2013 4:21 pm | |
| Thank you guys Already, that I have trouble with the English, then the American, for me, it is the Chinese Cheers Pascal |
| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | free1954
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![To Qualify Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: To Qualify Mon May 13, 2013 5:46 pm | |
| thank you gentlemen for the replies, i found a few references on other forums that they practiced at distances of 400 to 3100 yrds [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] |
| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | tasker224
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![To Qualify Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: To Qualify Mon May 13, 2013 6:59 pm | |
| I'm not an infanteer, but 3100 yards? ![Shocked](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_eek.gif) I couildn't even see a target that far off! |
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![To Qualify Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: To Qualify Tue May 14, 2013 6:31 am | |
| 3100 yards??? Free1954, you smoked the carpet !
MH rifle is sighted to 1450 yard ...
But ,in the reality ,it's differently, the first salvo of the battle fired by one of the companies of 1/24 th , was fired at 800 yards on the zulu regiment Nokhenkhe that passed in front of the British far left, to join the Zulu right horn ...
LC had given orders to start the infantry and artillery fire from 600 yards...
Cheers
Pascal |
| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | Mr M. Cooper
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![To Qualify Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: to qualify Tue May 14, 2013 3:57 pm | |
| :p;: How about long range snipers :p;: :p;: |
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![To Qualify Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: To Qualify Tue May 14, 2013 5:20 pm | |
| How about long range snipers :p;: Pose this question to Free1954 :p;: |
| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | free1954
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![To Qualify Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: To Qualify Sat May 18, 2013 10:57 am | |
| no sir I wasn't smoking anything. I just passed on a point of reference that I seen on another forum. I have a mkiv martini henry and the sights are very poor for looking at 800 yards.
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| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | free1954
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![To Qualify Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: To Qualify Sat May 18, 2013 10:31 pm | |
| speaking of long distance martini shooting have you ever seen this articule? [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] |
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| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | free1954
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![To Qualify Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: To Qualify Sun May 19, 2013 1:14 pm | |
| ray63 thanks sir for posting that link. some very interesting info in that thread. my apologies for posting info that has already been discussed before but I have a very hard time with the search engine.
for all the reading I have been doing lately It's my opinion that the troops at isandlwana, no matter how poorly or well they shot were rapidly overwhelmed. singe shot rifles can only be loaded so fast. |
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![To Qualify Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: To Qualify Sun May 19, 2013 1:28 pm | |
| - free1954 wrote:
for all the reading I have been doing lately It's my opinion that the troops at isandlwana, no matter how poorly or well they shot were rapidly overwhelmed. singe shot rifles can only be loaded so fast. That was certainly a factor, but there were of course many others. Keep on reading! |
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![To Qualify Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: To Qualify Sun May 19, 2013 2:08 pm | |
| - Quote :
- my apologies for posting info that has already been discussed before but I have a very hard time with the search engine.
Don't worry about it we will help where we can! There are 42910 messages on the forum... Posts are bound to be repetitive. |
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![To Qualify Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: To Qualify Sat May 25, 2013 6:20 pm | |
| free1954 The first salvo of MH was fired at 800 yards, all other below 600 yards ( idem for the artillery ) according to the instructions of LC ... It is well known Cheers Pascal the Rascal |
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