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PostSubject: Badly designed !   Badly designed ! EmptyMon Jun 17, 2013 2:27 pm

Hi all

Why LC so badly designed the 2nd column of Durnford, the rocket battery with black colonial infantry and cavalry ???

In addition there is used as reinforcement so what would have been better in vanguard !!!???

She should have come in Zululand before the third column as a lure ...

Or make it as a regular column by adding a British imperial infantry battalion and a 7 pdrs section  ...



As LC knew Durnford loved black troops and vice verca, it was the second column based on that???


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Martin theory about the rocket battery :

"I do have a theory about the rocket battery, and this involves the asking of Pulleine for the loan of the two companies of the 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment, which Pulleine refused to lend to Durnford. Now, there's a thing, if, as some folk keep saying, Durnford was in command, then why did he have to ask Pulleine for these two companies, surely, if he was in command he could have ordered it, couldn't he? Anyway, I think that Durnford had a plan to use Raw etc on the left, while he (Durnford) attempted to come around from the right to stop these reported zulus, and then between them (Raw and Durnford), they could drive these zulus towards the waiting rocket battery and its NNC escourt, and if Pulleine had granted the loan of the two companies, they too would have been waiting in position, and between them all, ie Raw, Durnford, the rocket battery, its escort, and also the 2 coy's of infantry, they could have defeated the zulus that had been seen on the ridge. Of course, this is just a theory, but it might just have been part of Durnford's plan, however Pulleine refused the 2 coy's, and as everyone was to learn later, these reported zulus were quite a few more than had been estimated.",

For me, this theory does not hold, the firepower of the battery is too low and very bad ...

I think LC has assigned this unit to Durnford, because he did not know what to do! For me, this battery should never have existed !
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PostSubject: Re: Badly designed !   Badly designed ! EmptyMon Jun 17, 2013 8:57 pm

It was Melville who really prevented Durnford from taking the 2 companies. Credit where is due!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Badly designed !   Badly designed ! EmptyTue Jun 18, 2013 6:37 am

Pulleine and was in accord, which is the same! But fortunately Durnford was unable to get these two companies, if not they were massacred even bigger quickly did what was !
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PostSubject: Re: Badly designed !   Badly designed ! EmptyTue Jun 18, 2013 8:08 am

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PostSubject: Re: Badly designed !   Badly designed ! EmptyTue Jun 18, 2013 8:25 am

When I think Durnford have escaped the Zulu trap if he had left earlier  the camp where he had nothing to ay, despite the orders of LC who wanted to be there. Still and no one knows why?

To return to the subject, he had to be in South Africa, a Imperial British infantry battalion  available as the 4 th for example ? Because a Imperial British infantry battalion incorporated into the second column would have allowed it to look like something !This columnlacked a vertebral column of British imperial troops...



All way, the invading army was very badly organized ...
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PostSubject: Re: Badly designed !   Badly designed ! EmptyTue Jun 18, 2013 9:03 am

No! He was ordered to the camp! He should have remained there, until told otherwise. It was just unfortunate the camp was attacked on that day.
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It's a shame it was attacked, but you astray you, you were wrong topic!Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Badly designed !   Badly designed ! EmptyThu Jun 20, 2013 8:03 am

"My first private opinion is that had the zulu army gone against Wood or Pearson instead,the same thing would have happened to them"

This proves my opinion that the invading army was poorly organized !
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PostSubject: Re: Badly designed !   Badly designed ! EmptyThu Jun 20, 2013 9:30 am

No Sir all the titles of my topics are understandable to the majority of the forum members !



And specially thereof !



Those who do not Understand, just go see aillor ...Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Badly designed !   Badly designed ! EmptyThu Jun 27, 2013 1:37 pm

I never understood why LC had not committed all the second column in the Zululand and why Durnford left a troop of NNH in Natal ?
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PostSubject: Re: Badly designed !   Badly designed ! EmptyThu Jun 27, 2013 2:46 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Badly designed !   Badly designed ! EmptyThu Jun 27, 2013 3:05 pm

This column there would never have existed! His troops should have been distributed in columns 1 - 3 and 4!
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