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Does anyone know if Lt Melville's kids entered into the Army. I know QV granted them, a free scholarship into the military, would be interested to know if they took up the offer or took alternative careers.
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His son, Charles Melvill (1878–1925), served in the British Army. He later became a major general in the New Zealand Military Forces.

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Chard1879,

MELVILL's sons joined the Army and were commissioned as an officers.

Teignmouth Philip Melvill, would also win an Olympic Gold.

Charles William Melvill, would become a Major-General and served with distinction during the 1st World War.

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Just spotted on e-bay:

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Hi All .
I think Charles certainly looks like his father . Interesting that the other son Teignmouth won an Olympic Gold Medal , Jimu do you know the year and the event ? . Glad you posted that interesting piece of information.
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Any infoe on his wife?
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So its "Melvill" no "E"
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Yes Mr G , no '' E '' is the correct spelling Salute
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Their Father would have been proud of them. Salute 
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Absolutely , excellent service records .
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Any infoe on his wife?
His wife was (Sarah Elizabeth Reed) They were married in South Africa 1876, while he was serving in the Ninth Frontier War.

Very little on her?

Source:For the Queen and Country: The Zulu War Diary of Lieutenant Wilfred Heaton
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Melvill married Sarah in Febuary 1876 . As we have discussed here previously there was no provision for Posthumous VC's
in 1879 . The following from ' Who's Who In The Zulu War Vol 1 ' by Knight & Greaves . '' Both Melvill's Widow , Sarah , and Coghill's father petitioned repeatedly on their behalf and in 1906 the rules regarding the award of the VC were changed '' . Among the first batch of Posthumous VC's awarded retrospectively were two sent to the families of Melvill & Coghill .
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90th,

In answer to your question, it was the 1920 Antwerp Olympics and the event was polo!

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1920 Antwerp Olympics . Spent hours looking at various sites, load on the Olympics, but can't find anything on a Polo Event. scratch 
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Thanks Jimu much appreciated .
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Was Melville awarded the VC, or was it given to his kids in admiration of their father, bearing in mind the date of the article below.

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Ray it was awarded to Melvill , obviously not personally , as he was dead . From memory Melvill & Coghill were awarded their VC's in 1907 when the award began to be granted posthumously .
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Thanks 90th. It was the date that interested me June 1879, knowing that Melville couldn't have been awarded the VC posthumously. So I'm thinking was it really necessary for his family to lobby for his VC, If QV had it in mind anyway. I know QV had passed away, by the time it was awarded, but surly someone who have been aware of her wishes. Just a thought.
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Ray63 I don't know if it was QV's wishes to grant Melvill a VC , when it was actually decided by I'm not sure who it was , to award Posthumous VC's , it wasn't only Melvill & Coghill that were granted them , I seem to recall there were a few , some from earlier than 1879 . Hope this helped to answer your question scratch
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The original warrant instituting the VC made no provision for posthumous awards. The earlier 'posthumous' awards were known as 'memoranda entries' - Freddie Roberts (son of Lord Roberts) was awarded the VC but he died within 24 hrs of his act of gallantry at Colenso. In August 1902, King Edward VII approved the issued of six further posthumous VC arising from the war in South Africa 1899-1902. The question arose in respect of six other similar cases dating from 1859-1897 - the earliest being Pte Spence, 42nd Regt in 1859 and included Lts Melvill & Coghill; their VCs being finally presented in January 1907. The case of Melvill is interesting because his widow petitioned QV to be allowed to claim the £10 pa pension (to help bring up her young sons) 20 years before she actually received the VC itself.
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Thanks Kenny , you put it much better than me and with more detail Very Happy
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Sarah Elizabeth Melvill died 14 January 1943 in Johannesburg.

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