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PostSubject: Cetshwayo's Restoration!    Cetshwayo's Restoration!  EmptyTue Sep 17, 2013 11:04 pm

When Cetshwayo was restore as King, did the original untamatums stand ?

Zulu-land was broken up in to 13 Kingdoms, was Cetshwayo King over all, or was he just given his own Kingdom ?

Did the British impose any demands on the chiefs of the 13 Kingdoms. Ie Taxes, ect ?

We're they allowed to keep firearms?
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PostSubject: Re: Cetshwayo's Restoration!    Cetshwayo's Restoration!  EmptyTue Sep 17, 2013 11:11 pm

Good post ulundi. some big questions there.
i'm sure the answers will be forth coming.
there are some clever people around here
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PostSubject: Cetshwayo's restoration    Cetshwayo's Restoration!  EmptyWed Sep 18, 2013 2:32 am

Hi Ulundi .
The following is from Ian Knights ' The Zulu War Then And Now '
The final settlement of the zululand question bore little relation to Frere's original political goal . The confederation scheme
had died at Isandlwana , for the war contributed to the fall of the Tory Govt , and the ensuing Liberal regime abandoned a forward policy in South Africa . Zululand , meanwhile , collapsed into chaos . Wolseley's settlement had exaggerated weaknesses inherent in the zulu political and economic system , and his appointees were unable to hold them in check . The country split into those who wanted the monarchy and those who waxed fat in it's absence . Civil war broke out . Cetshwayo , in comfortable but dreary exile in the castle at Cape Town begged to be allowed home to restore order . In 1882 he visited England where he had an audience with Queen Victoria at Osborne House , finally he returned to zululand on the 10th Jan 1893 , he was strictly forbidden to revive the military system , and he was gicen back only part of his former territory . Trouble broke out almost immediatley when Royalist factions outside the King's control , attacked Zibhebhu. Zibhebhu reacted sharply , and launched an attack which Cetshwayo off guard , and massacred many of his supporters . In1906 , the imposition of a poll tax , coming on top of a succession of natural disasters , provoked a rebellion
in Natal , but despite the efforts of it's leaders , only a few zulu chiefs supported it , among them Mehlokazulu kaShihayo , who had been one of the causes of the British Ulitmatum in 1879 . It was bloodily suppressed and its leaders, including Mehlokazulu , killed . There is no mention of the zulu's allowed to keep firearms , I doubt they were , as there is no mention of the zulus using them on each other that I can find during their time of Civil War .
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PostSubject: Re: Cetshwayo's Restoration!    Cetshwayo's Restoration!  EmptyWed Sep 18, 2013 7:47 am

Thanks 90th, so basically same rules applied.
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PostSubject: Cetshwayo's Restoration    Cetshwayo's Restoration!  EmptyWed Sep 18, 2013 7:57 am

Hi Ulundi .
In a nutshell it appears so . Salute 
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PostSubject: Re: Cetshwayo's Restoration!    Cetshwayo's Restoration!  EmptyWed Sep 18, 2013 8:14 am

90th,

I don't know if it is an error in your typing or your source, but King Cetshwayo kaMpande was restored on 10th January 1883, rather than 1893. It would have been a miracle as he died in 1884!

Ulundi,

On the point of firearms; firearms were certainly used in the Zulu Civil War in 1883. Firearms were used again in the Zulu Uprising in 1888, as a few of the British casualties were shot.

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PostSubject: Cetshwayo Restoration    Cetshwayo's Restoration!  EmptyWed Sep 18, 2013 8:25 am

Hi John .
Very Happy  Shocked . Certainly a typo on my behalf in my haste to lodge the post ! . As he was certainly well gone by 1893 ! .
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