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![Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879 Artical by John Young Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879 Artical by John Young Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:08 pm | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Fantasic artical - John Young wrote:
- "At 3 a.m., Lieutenant Horace Lockwood Smith-Dorrien, of the 95th (Derbyshire) Regiment of Foot, a special service officer detailed to transport duties, was ordered to return to Rorke's Drift. He carried orders for Durnford, ordering him to the camp at Isandlwana with the forces at his disposal."
Can we really read anything into this, even if it's between the lines. Or is it as clear as day. Simply move to the camp. I may have missed it, but I didn't see any mention of his Drinking and Gambling habits. |
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| - John Young wrote:
- However close to where he died is the memorial to the Natal Carbineers who perished that day, and if I may misquote it - neither praise nor blame add to his epitaph. ©John Young 2013, with minor revisions and amendments to previously published text.
[/justify] Thanks for posting this, but I don't understand the last line...specifically the use of the word "misquote." I'm sure I ought to know the significance, but I don't. |
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| Impi,
The gambling is there, as to his drinking is there a verified source for that?
6pdr,
The Natal Carbineers' memorial reads thus:
Not Theirs To Save The Day But Where They Stood, Falling To Dye The Earth With Brave Men's Blood For England's Sake And Duty -Be Their Name Sacred Among Us- Neither Praise Nor Blame Add To Their Epitaph-- But Let It Be Simple As That Which Marked Thermopylae. Tell It In England Those That Pass Us By, Here, Faithful To Their Charge, Her Soldiers Lie.
As you can see 'Their' becomes his.
JY |
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| You can all blame Les for this as he wanted to see it in full.
Cheers JY. just finished printing it.will go nicely with the 'other's '..More detail than Droolever! im sure members will agree that was required information. xhosa |
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| Gambling and drinking normally go hand in hand...
Still money, men's lives, doesn't matter to a gambler |
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| - impi wrote:
- Gambling and drinking normally go hand in hand...
Still money, men's lives, doesn't matter to a gambler Ah, I see. And where did you get your degree in psychology? |
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| ![No](/users/1313/16/75/50/smiles/1068807785.gif) . the bigger picture please gentlemen. ' not the squabbling thing '. xhosa |
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| - sas1 wrote:
- Mate you don't need a degree...
Sorry to hear it SAS1, but my point is not that you aren't entitled to your opinion based on personal circumstances. He was making sweeping generalizations without any reference to a statistical basis, or a qualification that makes me think he would know the actual correlation. I have my own grudges parent-wise, but that does not make me a social psychologist. My guess is that had Young considered drink and gambling relevant to his profile, he would have mentioned them as he does Durnford's depressions. I found the profile fair and balanced. - 6pdr |
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| John Young only missed the Drinking off. So let's keep the gambling. But i do agree with Impi. Drink and Gambeling, likes Egg's and Bacon. Reading between the lines and in hindsight that is! |
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| yeah JY thats always been a favourite and his tash is getting there..
Note all, im from a poor working class backround, we had very little as kid's. just to put on record, i loved both deceased parents very much,i miss them also very much. cheers xhosa |
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| xhosa,
(apropos of nothing...) Who is that in your profile picture, btw? - 6pd |
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| hiya mate, have not the ist clue,entitled, an Induna, but i took a long time choosing my avatar, xhosa |
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| sorry meant to say we are both ' grey beards '. ![Sad](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_sad.gif) . |
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| - xhosa2000 wrote:
- sorry meant to say we are
both ' grey beards '. . Brilliant choice...befitting an eminence grise. I must confess however I was hoping you were going to say Mnyamana, Ntshingwayo or (especially) Mkhosana. |
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| 6pdr,hiya. i wish, but a noble (24th) countenance:Salute: . xhosa |
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| hey 6pdr,have you look left recently?. xhosa |
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| hiya 6pdr,did you look left? xhosa |
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| - xhosa2000 wrote:
- hiya 6pdr,did you look left? xhosa
Now I have... |
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| hiya 6pdr:Salute: |
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