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PostSubject: And we thought Zulu customs were bad!    And we thought Zulu customs were bad!  EmptySun Nov 17, 2013 9:36 am

"Second Anglo-Afghan War

Captured British soldiers
The British officer John Masters recorded in his autobiography that Afghan women in the North-West Frontier Province (1901–1955) of British India during the Second Anglo-Afghan War would castrate non-Muslim soldiers who were captured, like British and Sikhs. They also used an execution method involving urine; Pathan women urinated into prisoner's mouths. Captured British soldiers were spread out and fastened with restraints to the ground, then a stick, or a piece of wood was used to keep their mouth open to prevent swallowing. Pathan women then squatted and urinated directly into the mouth of the man until he drowned in the urine, taking turns one at a time."
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So the last thing he would have seen in his life would have been................................
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I wonder if that's where the meaning " taking the P" derived from?
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Your an Evil man. Very Happy 
Possibly he was a bit P*****D off?

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Lovely creatures women, so ladylike, very refined, so adorable, the gentle sex, Paah! No 

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PostSubject: Re: And we thought Zulu customs were bad!    And we thought Zulu customs were bad!  EmptyMon Nov 18, 2013 7:53 am

Suspect Suspect Suspect  I do not believe too much, Muslim women are too pudiques for such practices ...
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I think "The Death of a Thousand Cuts" would be better than this. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: And we thought Zulu customs were bad!    And we thought Zulu customs were bad!  EmptyMon Nov 18, 2013 12:58 pm

I have heard some blokes pay for this service?
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Egads and gadzooks!!!! They must have been into sadism Shocked 
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Mate, that cracked me up. Best laugh I'v had for ages, had my mates in stitches. Very Happy Classic!!!
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PostSubject: Re: And we thought Zulu customs were bad!    And we thought Zulu customs were bad!  EmptyMon Nov 18, 2013 1:12 pm

Ahahahahaha, even my wife laugh. LH such a dry sense if humour!
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LH hope we are not talking from experience?
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Hmmm. Suspect 
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Not getting involved 
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PostSubject: Re: And we thought Zulu customs were bad!    And we thought Zulu customs were bad!  EmptyMon Nov 18, 2013 11:10 pm

As against the British and their Indian servants is certainly not bothered with Pathan and Afghan prisoners ...

See what the British were doing to their prisoners at the end of the revolts of the Sepoy, under the pretext that they were Muslim, they put their prisoners of war, just before the mouth of cannons for execution ...

But all of these behaviors are characteristic of colonial wars, or you do not take any prisoners or is it actually to torture ...
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You will find, that British retaliate only when an atrocity is committed against them, with regards to barbaric behaviour.

May I suggest you read the two books "Victorian Colonial Warfare" India & Africa.
By Donald Featherstone. Then come back and tell us about British behaviour during warfare.
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The most barbaric act was to undertake colonial wars...
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Side stepping the issues. You were discussing method.
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To Barbarism, Europeans had nothing to be jealous to the indigenous they fought, barbarism is a human characteristic ...


See modes of execution in France before the revolution on this forum ...
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You do tend to be selective and hi-light the British actions.
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I'm not anglophobe, as everyone knows I'm the exact opposite, but what I like most in the colonial wars, it is the indigenous military systems and for the British, their red uniforms ...

But I'm Still on the side of lower if the Zulu attack a little black nation, for me they were wrong and if a white nation attack an indigenous nation, it is the whites who are wrong ...

Question of mentality ...Someone in this forum told me that I was like Bayard, he guessed ...

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Perhaps one needs to look at the reasons behind invasions.
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They were bad, Frere used casus belli, made from all piece ...

Endorse a colonial war is disgusting !
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At that point the British Government was unaware if Frere's intentions?
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