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PostSubject: Extended line formations    Extended line formations  EmptyMon Dec 09, 2013 8:47 pm

Why was the Extended line formation introduce when breechloaders came into play. Had this formation been tested in combat prior to Isandlwana. The Zulus used mass formation when attacking, did the British now have a plan B or C which could be instigated dependant on the enemy and the type of terrain they were fighting in?

What was the recommended spacing between men, when using extended line formation.
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PostSubject: Re: Extended line formations    Extended line formations  EmptyMon Dec 09, 2013 9:22 pm

Because a new "FIELD EXERCISES AND EVOLUTIONS OF INFANTRY" was published in 1877, superceding that of 1870.

And after the defeat at Isandhlwana. The "British Square" was born!
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PostSubject: Re: Extended line formations    Extended line formations  EmptyMon Dec 09, 2013 11:01 pm

And after the defeat at Isandhlwana. The "British Square" was born!
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PostSubject: Re: Extended line formations    Extended line formations  EmptyMon Dec 09, 2013 11:15 pm

Ha yes!! That would have been the expression on the Zulu's face, at Ulundi!
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PostSubject: Re: Extended line formations    Extended line formations  EmptyTue Dec 10, 2013 12:08 am

And after the defeat at Isandhlwana. The "British Square" was born!
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PostSubject: Re: Extended line formations    Extended line formations  EmptyWed Dec 11, 2013 7:23 am

Ulundi ,Lester and impi ,the recommended spacing between men, when using extended line formation with MH was of three paces between each man (7 1/2 ft ) , but the officer in command had leeway to open out further if required.

But the Extended line formations emerged with the influx of MLR in the battalions, for example I remember that during the revolt of the sepoys, a general went personally berate, a battalion commander at the beginning of a battle, because his unit was in close order to attack ...

This is because if the MLR's shooting slower than the muskets models 1842 ,they shot so far and accurately, that some felt that the close order was outdated.

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PostSubject: Re: Extended line formations    Extended line formations  EmptyFri Dec 13, 2013 2:11 pm

Does anyone know whether volley fire was conducted while companies were in extended order, or were they limited to conducting independent fire while in this formation?
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PostSubject: Re: Extended line formations    Extended line formations  EmptyFri Dec 13, 2013 3:20 pm

Cetewayo

For the soldiers can shoot volley fire, they need their officers can control each salvos and as the fire of these salvos was concentrating, they certainly were not in extended order ...

Independent fire is best for the extented order but could be used in any formation ...
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