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Subject: Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:44 pm
Have I missed something? auction today sag medal to LT.A.O.WHITE 30 REGT....Clasp 1879....realised £2800 before add ons..could not find him on the 30th but he is on the roll for the 90th, could he of been a casaulty??
shackleton
Posts : 25 Join date : 2013-03-28 Age : 63 Location : Berkshire
Subject: Re: Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:08 pm
He is with the 90th & down as a casualty (Mortally Wounded) at Kambula ref: I.T. Tavender
TOWERBOY
Posts : 190 Join date : 2011-03-16 Age : 53
Subject: Re: Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:19 pm
Cheers, I have that book here in front of me, I have also found him in "They Fell Like Stones"
Jager1
Posts : 72 Join date : 2011-02-26 Location : Scotland
Subject: Re: Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:25 pm
Afraid the buyer missed something if they think Lt White was a casualty, the Tavender Roll is about as useful as a stone teabag. My advice to anyone would be to consign their copy to the depths and use the likes of Regimental histories or John young's book which is far more accurate.
I bid the medal up pretty high as I don't have a 90th Officer medal in my collection but as soon as I noticed Tavender had him down as a casualty I thought it may go crazy.
Of course this is only presumption, its possible the buyer was just desperate for a 90th officer at any cost, hopefully it is the case as it would be a shame if someone was caught out
Jager1
TOWERBOY
Posts : 190 Join date : 2011-03-16 Age : 53
Subject: Re: Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:31 pm
Jager1 did you see the medal? I have contacted the auctions about 20 mins ago and they are adamant the medal is too the 30th.
Jager1
Posts : 72 Join date : 2011-02-26 Location : Scotland
Subject: Re: Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:21 pm
Yes I got pics of it earlier in the week, its 100% 90th and a nice looking medal, 30th must have been a typo
Jager1
shackleton
Posts : 25 Join date : 2013-03-28 Age : 63 Location : Berkshire
Subject: Re: Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 Thu Jul 03, 2014 6:23 pm
Breaking news it's back on sale !!!!! but have found that there are two letters in the Brecon Museum from him.
Chard1879
Posts : 1261 Join date : 2010-04-12
Subject: Re: Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 Thu Jul 03, 2014 6:47 pm
shackleton wrote:
He is with the 90th & down as a casualty (Mortally Wounded) at Kambula ref: I.T. Tavender
Possibly incorrect. Because one of his letters in the Brecon Archives, covers action at Hlobane and Ulundi.
90th
Posts : 10089 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 64 Location : Melbourne, Australia
Subject: Have I missed something ! ...........Lt Medal 2,800 GBP's Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:52 am
All I can tell you he isnt on any of the Headstones in the Cemetery at Khambula !. 90th
John Young
Posts : 2099 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 64 Location : Lower Sheering, Essex
Subject: Re: Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:38 am
Gary,
I hope not he got promoted to Lieutenant in 1880!
John Y.
90th
Posts : 10089 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 64 Location : Melbourne, Australia
Subject: Have I missed something LT Medal 2,800 GBP's Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:53 pm
Hi John Thanks for that , as you can see I didnt look up his record . I was only referring to the Tavender quote from '' Shackleton '' . Cheers 90th
John Young
Posts : 2099 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 64 Location : Lower Sheering, Essex
Subject: Re: Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:22 pm
I just wonder why or how I. T. Tavender reached the conclusion he was Mortally Wounded at Khambula.
Then I looked at Arthur Oglivie White's date of birth - 1st April 1858 - maybe he was just a born joker!
Still alive and kicking in 1884 in the Hart's for that year it records: South African War - 1879 - Zulu Campaign - Affair of Zungen Nek, battles of Kambula and Ulundi. Medal with Clasp.
John Y.
90th
Posts : 10089 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 64 Location : Melbourne, Australia
Subject: Have I missed something .....Lt Medal 2,800 GBP's Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:27 pm
. Hi JY You may be right ! Cheers 90th
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Hi John 
. I was only referring to the Tavender quote from '' Shackleton '' 
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. Hi JY