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PostSubject: Have i missed something....LT medal £2800   Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 EmptyThu Jul 03, 2014 12:44 pm

Have I missed something? auction today sag medal to LT.A.O.WHITE 30 REGT....Clasp 1879....realised £2800 before add ons..could not find him on the 30th but he is on the roll for the 90th, could he of been a casaulty??
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PostSubject: Re: Have i missed something....LT medal £2800   Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 EmptyThu Jul 03, 2014 1:08 pm

He is with the 90th & down as a casualty (Mortally Wounded) at Kambula ref: I.T. Tavender
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PostSubject: Re: Have i missed something....LT medal £2800   Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 EmptyThu Jul 03, 2014 1:19 pm

Cheers, I have that book here in front of me, I have also found him in "They Fell Like Stones"
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PostSubject: Re: Have i missed something....LT medal £2800   Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 EmptyThu Jul 03, 2014 2:25 pm

Afraid the buyer missed something if they think Lt White was a casualty, the Tavender Roll is about as useful as a stone teabag. My advice to anyone would be to consign their copy to the depths and use the likes of Regimental histories or John young's book which is far more accurate.

I bid the medal up pretty high as I don't have a 90th Officer medal in my collection but as soon as I noticed Tavender had him down as a casualty I thought it may go crazy.

Of course this is only presumption, its possible the buyer was just desperate for a 90th officer at any cost, hopefully it is the case as it would be a shame if someone was caught out

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PostSubject: Re: Have i missed something....LT medal £2800   Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 EmptyThu Jul 03, 2014 2:31 pm

Jager1 did you see the medal? I have contacted the auctions about 20 mins ago and they are adamant the medal is too the 30th.
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PostSubject: Re: Have i missed something....LT medal £2800   Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 EmptyThu Jul 03, 2014 3:21 pm

Yes I got pics of it earlier in the week, its 100% 90th and a nice looking medal, 30th must have been a typo

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PostSubject: Re: Have i missed something....LT medal £2800   Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 EmptyThu Jul 03, 2014 6:23 pm

Breaking news it's back on sale !!!!! but have found that there are two letters in the Brecon Museum from him.
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PostSubject: Re: Have i missed something....LT medal £2800   Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 EmptyThu Jul 03, 2014 6:47 pm

shackleton wrote:
He is with the 90th & down as a casualty (Mortally Wounded) at Kambula ref: I.T. Tavender

Possibly incorrect. Because one of his letters in the Brecon Archives, covers action at Hlobane and Ulundi.
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PostSubject: Have I missed something ! ...........Lt Medal 2,800 GBP's   Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 EmptyFri Jul 04, 2014 2:52 am

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I can tell you he isnt on any of the Headstones in the Cemetery at Khambula !.
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PostSubject: Re: Have i missed something....LT medal £2800   Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 EmptySat Jul 05, 2014 11:38 am

Gary,

I hope not he got promoted to Lieutenant in 1880!

John Y.
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PostSubject: Have I missed something LT Medal 2,800 GBP's    Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 EmptySat Jul 05, 2014 12:53 pm

Very Happy Hi John
Thanks for that , as you can see I didnt look up his record  You need to study mo . I was only referring to the Tavender quote from '' Shackleton ''  Very Happy Very Happy Salute .
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PostSubject: Re: Have i missed something....LT medal £2800   Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 EmptySat Jul 05, 2014 1:22 pm

I just wonder why or how I. T. Tavender reached the conclusion he was Mortally Wounded at Khambula.

Then I looked at Arthur Oglivie White's date of birth - 1st April 1858 - maybe he was just a born joker!

Still alive and kicking in 1884 in the Hart's for that year it records: South African War - 1879 - Zulu Campaign - Affair of Zungen Nek, battles of Kambula and Ulundi. Medal with Clasp.

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PostSubject: Have I missed something .....Lt Medal 2,800 GBP's   Have i missed something....LT medal £2800 EmptySat Jul 05, 2014 9:27 pm

Joker . Hi JY
You may be right !  Joker 
Cheers 90th  Very Happy 
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