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PostSubject: Australian Zulu War veterans   Australian Zulu War veterans EmptySat Aug 22, 2015 4:26 pm

Hello all,

In my research I've identified numerous individuals who claimed to have served in the Zulu War. Although I do have a medal roll for this campaign, I'm aware this is not complete, nor do I always know the regiment they served in. Hence I would appreciate additional information on the following names;

D D CARRICK
Michael D'ARCY
Howard ENGLISH
Frederick William GALLOWAY - 85th regt ?
John William HOWDIN - claimed to have been at Rorke's Drift
Walter JAMES
C JONES
Samuel LOTINGA
John Wyndon LYON (also John Lyon WYNDON)
John MAIR
G Marston MONEY
J M MONEY
George William MOSS
John Fletcher OWEN - Royal Artillery
W C WHITE - Royal Marine Light Infantry

Any information on these men would be most welcome.
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PostSubject: Re: Australian Zulu War veterans   Australian Zulu War veterans EmptySat Aug 22, 2015 7:25 pm

Rod,

Link below for a little information on John Wyndon Lyon.

https://www.1879zuluwar.com/t6827-john-wyndon-lyon

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PostSubject: Re: Australian Zulu War veterans   Australian Zulu War veterans EmptySun Aug 23, 2015 7:58 am

Hi Rod,

Off the top of my head, Robert Barnes 17th Lancers served with the 1st Field Ambulance (AIF) at Gallipoli. Major De Passey of the South Australian Mounted Rifles in the Anglo-Boer War was also in the 17th Lancers in the AZW. Lieutenant, F.H. Berry of the Frontier Light Horse was from South Australia. Trooper Dobson of the same unit was from Tasmania. Regarding George Marston Money on your list, he wasn't in the AZW but fought with the Cape Mounted Rifles in the Morosi campaign of 1879.

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PostSubject: Australian Zulu War Veterans    Australian Zulu War veterans EmptySun Aug 23, 2015 8:23 am

Hi Rod
Another Australian not on your list is Archibald Stewart , from memory , I think he was a South Australian , he was mortally wounded at the battle of Hlobane , I think he was also Frontier Light Horse , they tried to take him as they retreated but the doctor said he's be dead within the hour , he'd suffered either a stomach ,  or chest wound.  I seem to recall he was seen by others being thrown off the cliff while still alive . I've posted this previously , I don't have the book here to check all the details .
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PostSubject: Re: Australian Zulu War veterans   Australian Zulu War veterans EmptyTue Aug 25, 2015 12:34 am

How about Lt Edgar Anstey 1/24th born South Australia 18.3.1851
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PostSubject: Austrlian Zulu War Veterans    Australian Zulu War veterans EmptyTue Aug 25, 2015 2:56 am

Hi Kenny
Yes , fancy forgetting him ! , he is the most well known without a doubt ! . I seem to think Lonsdale was possibly born here in Melbourne ? .
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PostSubject: Re: Australian Zulu War veterans   Australian Zulu War veterans EmptyTue Aug 25, 2015 9:50 am

Thats right Lonsdale was born in Melbourne in 1849 and I believe one of the Royal Navy officers was born in Australia also….just can't recall his name now.

Also these guys I just dug out:

1. Gunner F. Charles (No2609) of 'N' Battery, RA resided in Perth WA c1921.
2. Private, John Houze, 90th Foot. He also served with the Gordon's in the First Anglo-Boer War and was wounded at El Teb in 1884. He served for a period in the Navy in Australia (State unknown) then in the Second ABW paid his own passage to South Africa and joined the Imperial Light Infantry then known as the illicit Light Infantry prior to Spion Kop but after spin pop were referred to as the Iron Light Infantry. As if he didn't have enough of soldiering he served with the 3rd Battalion, Connaught Rangers as a Corporal in 1914 before transferring to the 2nd Battalion, Royal Irish Rifles in 1917. Although serving on 'home service' he was declared to old to serve and medically discharged in December of the same year…..what a life.
3. Trooper E.G. Gubbins 17th Lancers died in Hotham, Victoria in 1920.
4. Lance Corporal F.J. (J) Mudd, 3/60th Regiment was in South Australia in 1925.
5. Private H. Morgan 3/60th Regiment was in Queensland in 1921. Claimed Boer War Service also.
6. Private H. Collins 88th Regiment was in Queensland in 1921.

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PostSubject: Re: Australian Zulu War veterans   Australian Zulu War veterans EmptyTue Aug 25, 2015 10:25 am

Thank you all for your information & you may be interested to learn that in each Australian Colony/State a branch of the Imperial War Veterans' Assoc. was formed. The minutes of some of their meetings still survive in the holdings of the National Library of Aust. although not many members' names are given in these documents. It is embarassing to discover just how many men publically made false claims to have served at Rorke's Drift (probably just to inflate their fragile egos) & I'm sure this disgraceful practice still continues.

Just to refresh my memory, what was Lonsdale's full name? I assume this was the Lonsdale of Lonsdale's Horse?

Please keep any more names coming,
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PostSubject: Australian Zulu War Veterans    Australian Zulu War veterans EmptyTue Aug 25, 2015 11:41 am

Hi Rod
Rupert Latrobe Lonsdale , and yes , it's he of Lonsdale's Horse , happy to be corrected You need to study mo


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You may be right , I do seem to recall there was possibly a R.N. Officer born out here . I'll ask a mate of mine , he'll know .
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PostSubject: Re: Australian Zulu War veterans   Australian Zulu War veterans EmptyTue Aug 25, 2015 6:07 pm

Thats very interesting about the association papers surviving, but not a surprise about the Rorke's Drift claims although technically speaking thousands of soldiers passed through Rorke's Drift both prior to and after 22/23 January and they may have been taken out of context.

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PostSubject: Re: Australian Zulu War veterans   Australian Zulu War veterans EmptyTue Aug 25, 2015 6:54 pm

Good point. Possibly Applies to David Jenkins.
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Hi Cam
A mate of mine who is an expert on all Naval Brigade matters dealing with the Zulu War , so far is unable to find any officer who was born in Australia , who then served with the Royal Navy during the AZW , he has found a Naval Rating who was born out here , and served on HMS Shah during the conflict . He's still looking , will let you know if he unearths anything .
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PostSubject: Re: Australian Zulu War veterans   Australian Zulu War veterans EmptyFri Aug 28, 2015 9:22 am

I don't know about the other Australian Colonies, but Queensland had a regular traffic of regular army officers and specialist NCOs seconded to the Queensland Defence Force (& Qld Marine Defence Force), while many Queenslanders went to the UK for specialist training (eg. Hythe musketry school). I am currently researching one such individual who served in one of the Queensland Mounted Infantry contingents to South Africa in 1899 but chose to remain in SA after the war ended. He had previously been seconded to the Gordon Highlanders and served in the Tirah campaign of 1897.
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PostSubject: Re: Australian Zulu War veterans   Australian Zulu War veterans EmptyFri Aug 28, 2015 10:08 am

Thanks 90th, I'm kicking myself now as I usually make a note of these guy's and cannot recall how I picked it up….a who's who or something I believe.

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PostSubject: Australian Zulu War Veterans    Australian Zulu War veterans EmptyFri Aug 28, 2015 10:22 am

Yes Cam I'm the same , although I haven't always taken notes , but certainly recently as I read so much I need to make a note of what , or where I actually read it . You need to study mo You need to study mo You need to study mo
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PostSubject: Re: Australian Zulu War veterans   Australian Zulu War veterans EmptySun Sep 20, 2015 1:05 pm

Here's another one:

WHITE James Grove (Grove-White). Born, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia 1852. Lieutenant, 5th Middlesex Militia. Lieutenant, 57th (West Middlesex) Foot 12.11.73. Anglo-Zulu War 1879. Musketry Instructor 4.12.78. Captain 2.1.81. Graduated at Staff College 1889. Major Middlesex Regiment 18.9.89. Matabeleland Relief Force Reserve (Mafeking), Matabeleland Rebellion 1896. Lieutenant Colonel and Commanding Officer, 1st Battalion Middlesex Regiment 1898. Resided Kilybyrne, County Cork. ‘JP’ for County Cork and Waterford. ‘DL’ of Waterford and High Sherriff 1910. 1914-18; Lieutenant Colonel, Durhan Light Infantry. Royal Warwickshire Regiment. Colonel and A/QMG. Created a Companion of St Michael and St George (CMG) (LG 1.1.18). He was a recouned local Historian / Geneologist who was known to have transcribing parish registers for a number of years. Died 1938. Author of Historical and Topographical Notes of Buttevant (1905) and An Account of the Yeomanry of Ireland 1796 to 1834 and other associated books. Father; Major in the 40th Foot.
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Good get Cam Very Happy
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cam simpson wrote:
Here's another one:

WHITE James Grove (Grove-White). Born, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia 1852. Lieutenant, 5th Middlesex Militia. Lieutenant, 57th (West Middlesex) Foot 12.11.73. Anglo-Zulu War 1879. Musketry Instructor 4.12.78. Captain 2.1.81. Graduated at Staff College 1889. Major Middlesex Regiment 18.9.89. Matabeleland Relief Force Reserve (Mafeking), Matabeleland Rebellion 1896. Lieutenant Colonel and Commanding Officer, 1st Battalion Middlesex Regiment 1898. Resided Kilybyrne, County Cork. ‘JP’ for County Cork and Waterford. ‘DL’ of Waterford and High Sherriff 1910. 1914-18; Lieutenant Colonel, Durhan Light Infantry. Royal Warwickshire Regiment. Colonel and A/QMG. Created a Companion of St Michael and St George (CMG) (LG 1.1.18). He was a recouned local Historian / Geneologist who was known to have  transcribing parish registers for a number of years. Died 1938. Author of Historical and Topographical Notes of Buttevant (1905) and An Account of the Yeomanry of Ireland 1796 to 1834 and other associated books. Father; Major in the 40th Foot.  

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