Latest topics | » Private James Powell - 24th Regiment Today at 8:53 am by John Young » Anderson, A. 2622 2-24thYesterday at 6:01 pm by Dash » Samuel PoppleSun Dec 01, 2024 10:14 pm by Dash » 25B/671 Pte. J. Machin 2/24th Regiment, KIA IsandlwanaThu Nov 28, 2024 9:43 pm by Tim Needham » John Samuel Jobbins. Rorkes Drift Defender.Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:36 pm by jgregory » The Passing of Lady Ellen Baker.Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:35 pm by John Young » Dr. A. Ralph BusbySat Nov 23, 2024 9:14 am by Julian Whybra » Did Ntishingwayo really not know Lord C wasn't at home Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:31 am by Julian Whybra » Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native ContingentSat Nov 16, 2024 12:32 pm by Matthew Turl » Colonel Edward William Bray, 2nd/4th Regt.Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:55 pm by Julian Whybra » Royal Marine Light Infantry, ChathamThu Nov 14, 2024 7:57 pm by Petty Officer Tom » H.M.S. ForesterThu Nov 14, 2024 4:07 pm by johnex » Studies in the Zulu War volume VI now availableSat Nov 09, 2024 6:38 pm by Julian Whybra » Colonel Charles Knight PearsonFri Nov 08, 2024 5:56 pm by LincolnJDH » Grave of Henry SpaldingThu Nov 07, 2024 8:10 pm by 1879graves » John West at KambulaThu Nov 07, 2024 5:25 pm by MKalny15 » Private Frederick Evans 2/24thSun Nov 03, 2024 8:12 pm by Dash » How to find medal entitlement CokerSun Nov 03, 2024 10:51 am by Kev T » Isandlwana Casualty - McCathie/McCarthySat Nov 02, 2024 1:40 pm by Julian Whybra » William Jones CommentFri Nov 01, 2024 6:07 pm by Eddie » Brother of Lt YoungFri Nov 01, 2024 5:13 pm by Eddie » Frederick Marsh - HMS TenedosFri Nov 01, 2024 9:48 am by lydenburg » Mr Spiers KIA iSandlwana ?Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:50 am by Julian Whybra » Isandhlwana unaccounted for casualtiesFri Nov 01, 2024 7:48 am by Julian Whybra » Thrupps report to Surgeon General Wolfies Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:32 pm by Julian Whybra » Absence of Vereker from Snook's BookFri Oct 25, 2024 10:59 pm by Julian Whybra » Another Actor related to the Degacher-Hitchcock familyMon Oct 21, 2024 1:07 pm by Stefaan » No. 799 George Williams and his son-in-law No. 243 Thomas NewmanSat Oct 19, 2024 12:36 pm by Dash » Alphonse de Neuville- Painting the Defence of Rorke's DriftFri Oct 18, 2024 8:34 am by Stefaan » Studies in the Zulu War volumesWed Oct 16, 2024 3:26 pm by Julian Whybra » Martini Henry carbine IC1 markingsMon Oct 14, 2024 10:48 pm by Parkerbloggs » James Conner 1879 claspMon Oct 14, 2024 7:12 pm by Kenny » 80th REG of Foot (Staffords)Sun Oct 13, 2024 9:07 pm by shadeswolf » Frontier Light Horse uniformSun Oct 13, 2024 8:12 pm by Schlaumeier » Gelsthorpe, G. 1374 Private 1/24th / Scott, Sidney W. 521 Private 1/24thSun Oct 13, 2024 1:00 pm by Dash |
December 2024 | Mon | Tue | Wed | Thu | Fri | Sat | Sun |
---|
| | | | | | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | | | | | | Calendar |
|
Top posting users this month | |
New topics | » Anderson, A. 2622 2-24thYesterday at 6:01 pm by Dash » Private James Powell - 24th Regiment Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:03 pm by BritNZCan22 » 25B/671 Pte. J. Machin 2/24th Regiment, KIA IsandlwanaThu Nov 28, 2024 9:43 pm by Tim Needham » The Passing of Lady Ellen Baker.Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:35 pm by John Young » Dr. A. Ralph BusbySat Nov 16, 2024 11:36 am by Julian Whybra » Colonel Edward William Bray, 2nd/4th Regt.Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:49 pm by John Young » Samuel PoppleTue Nov 12, 2024 3:36 pm by STEPHEN JAMES » Colonel Charles Knight PearsonFri Nov 08, 2024 5:56 pm by LincolnJDH » John West at KambulaMon Nov 04, 2024 11:54 pm by MKalny15 |
Zero tolerance to harassment and bullying. |
Due to recent events on this forum, we have now imposed a zero tolerance to harassment and bullying. All reports will be treated seriously, and will lead to a permanent ban of both membership and IP address.
Any member blatantly corresponding in a deliberate and provoking manner will be removed from the forum as quickly as possible after the event.
If any members are being harassed behind the scenes PM facility by any member/s here at 1879zuluwar.com please do not hesitate to forward the offending text.
We are all here to communicate and enjoy the various discussions and information on the Anglo Zulu War of 1879. Opinions will vary, you will agree and disagree with one another, we will have debates, and so it goes.
There is no excuse for harassment or bullying of anyone by another person on this site.
The above applies to the main frame areas of the forum.
The ring which is the last section on the forum, is available to those members who wish to partake in slagging matches. That section cannot be viewed by guests and only viewed by members that wish to do so. |
Fair Use Notice | Fair use notice.
This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner.
We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes.
We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website.
If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution. |
|
| Australian Zulu War veterans | |
|
+490th cam simpson Tim Needham RedRod 8 posters | Author | Message |
---|
RedRod
Posts : 4 Join date : 2015-08-22 Age : 62 Location : Queensland, Australia
| Subject: Australian Zulu War veterans Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:26 pm | |
| Hello all,
In my research I've identified numerous individuals who claimed to have served in the Zulu War. Although I do have a medal roll for this campaign, I'm aware this is not complete, nor do I always know the regiment they served in. Hence I would appreciate additional information on the following names;
D D CARRICK Michael D'ARCY Howard ENGLISH Frederick William GALLOWAY - 85th regt ? John William HOWDIN - claimed to have been at Rorke's Drift Walter JAMES C JONES Samuel LOTINGA John Wyndon LYON (also John Lyon WYNDON) John MAIR G Marston MONEY J M MONEY George William MOSS John Fletcher OWEN - Royal Artillery W C WHITE - Royal Marine Light Infantry
Any information on these men would be most welcome. Thanks, Rod |
| | | Tim Needham
Posts : 311 Join date : 2011-10-18 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Australian Zulu War veterans Sat Aug 22, 2015 7:25 pm | |
| |
| | | cam simpson
Posts : 90 Join date : 2014-10-10
| Subject: Re: Australian Zulu War veterans Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:58 am | |
| Hi Rod,
Off the top of my head, Robert Barnes 17th Lancers served with the 1st Field Ambulance (AIF) at Gallipoli. Major De Passey of the South Australian Mounted Rifles in the Anglo-Boer War was also in the 17th Lancers in the AZW. Lieutenant, F.H. Berry of the Frontier Light Horse was from South Australia. Trooper Dobson of the same unit was from Tasmania. Regarding George Marston Money on your list, he wasn't in the AZW but fought with the Cape Mounted Rifles in the Morosi campaign of 1879.
Cam. |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10911 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Australian Zulu War Veterans Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:23 am | |
| Hi Rod Another Australian not on your list is Archibald Stewart , from memory , I think he was a South Australian , he was mortally wounded at the battle of Hlobane , I think he was also Frontier Light Horse , they tried to take him as they retreated but the doctor said he's be dead within the hour , he'd suffered either a stomach , or chest wound. I seem to recall he was seen by others being thrown off the cliff while still alive . I've posted this previously , I don't have the book here to check all the details . 90th |
| | | Kenny
Posts : 615 Join date : 2013-05-07 Location : Brecon
| Subject: Re: Australian Zulu War veterans Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:34 am | |
| How about Lt Edgar Anstey 1/24th born South Australia 18.3.1851 |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10911 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Austrlian Zulu War Veterans Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:56 am | |
| Hi Kenny Yes , fancy forgetting him ! , he is the most well known without a doubt ! . I seem to think Lonsdale was possibly born here in Melbourne ? . 90th |
| | | cam simpson
Posts : 90 Join date : 2014-10-10
| Subject: Re: Australian Zulu War veterans Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:50 am | |
| Thats right Lonsdale was born in Melbourne in 1849 and I believe one of the Royal Navy officers was born in Australia also….just can't recall his name now.
Also these guys I just dug out:
1. Gunner F. Charles (No2609) of 'N' Battery, RA resided in Perth WA c1921. 2. Private, John Houze, 90th Foot. He also served with the Gordon's in the First Anglo-Boer War and was wounded at El Teb in 1884. He served for a period in the Navy in Australia (State unknown) then in the Second ABW paid his own passage to South Africa and joined the Imperial Light Infantry then known as the illicit Light Infantry prior to Spion Kop but after spin pop were referred to as the Iron Light Infantry. As if he didn't have enough of soldiering he served with the 3rd Battalion, Connaught Rangers as a Corporal in 1914 before transferring to the 2nd Battalion, Royal Irish Rifles in 1917. Although serving on 'home service' he was declared to old to serve and medically discharged in December of the same year…..what a life. 3. Trooper E.G. Gubbins 17th Lancers died in Hotham, Victoria in 1920. 4. Lance Corporal F.J. (J) Mudd, 3/60th Regiment was in South Australia in 1925. 5. Private H. Morgan 3/60th Regiment was in Queensland in 1921. Claimed Boer War Service also. 6. Private H. Collins 88th Regiment was in Queensland in 1921.
Cam. |
| | | RedRod
Posts : 4 Join date : 2015-08-22 Age : 62 Location : Queensland, Australia
| Subject: Re: Australian Zulu War veterans Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:25 am | |
| Thank you all for your information & you may be interested to learn that in each Australian Colony/State a branch of the Imperial War Veterans' Assoc. was formed. The minutes of some of their meetings still survive in the holdings of the National Library of Aust. although not many members' names are given in these documents. It is embarassing to discover just how many men publically made false claims to have served at Rorke's Drift (probably just to inflate their fragile egos) & I'm sure this disgraceful practice still continues.
Just to refresh my memory, what was Lonsdale's full name? I assume this was the Lonsdale of Lonsdale's Horse?
Please keep any more names coming, Thanks, RedRod |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10911 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Australian Zulu War Veterans Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:41 am | |
| Hi Rod Rupert Latrobe Lonsdale , and yes , it's he of Lonsdale's Horse , happy to be corrected Cam You may be right , I do seem to recall there was possibly a R.N. Officer born out here . I'll ask a mate of mine , he'll know . 90th |
| | | cam simpson
Posts : 90 Join date : 2014-10-10
| Subject: Re: Australian Zulu War veterans Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:07 pm | |
| Thats very interesting about the association papers surviving, but not a surprise about the Rorke's Drift claims although technically speaking thousands of soldiers passed through Rorke's Drift both prior to and after 22/23 January and they may have been taken out of context.
Cam. |
| | | impi
Posts : 2308 Join date : 2010-07-02 Age : 44
| Subject: Re: Australian Zulu War veterans Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:54 pm | |
| Good point. Possibly Applies to David Jenkins. |
| | | 1879graves
Posts : 3388 Join date : 2009-03-03 Location : Devon
| Subject: Re: Australian Zulu War veterans Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:01 am | |
| |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10911 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Australian Zulu War Veterans Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:16 am | |
| Hi Cam A mate of mine who is an expert on all Naval Brigade matters dealing with the Zulu War , so far is unable to find any officer who was born in Australia , who then served with the Royal Navy during the AZW , he has found a Naval Rating who was born out here , and served on HMS Shah during the conflict . He's still looking , will let you know if he unearths anything . 90th |
| | | RedRod
Posts : 4 Join date : 2015-08-22 Age : 62 Location : Queensland, Australia
| Subject: Re: Australian Zulu War veterans Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:22 am | |
| I don't know about the other Australian Colonies, but Queensland had a regular traffic of regular army officers and specialist NCOs seconded to the Queensland Defence Force (& Qld Marine Defence Force), while many Queenslanders went to the UK for specialist training (eg. Hythe musketry school). I am currently researching one such individual who served in one of the Queensland Mounted Infantry contingents to South Africa in 1899 but chose to remain in SA after the war ended. He had previously been seconded to the Gordon Highlanders and served in the Tirah campaign of 1897. |
| | | cam simpson
Posts : 90 Join date : 2014-10-10
| Subject: Re: Australian Zulu War veterans Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:08 am | |
| Thanks 90th, I'm kicking myself now as I usually make a note of these guy's and cannot recall how I picked it up….a who's who or something I believe.
Cam. |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10911 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Australian Zulu War Veterans Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:22 am | |
| |
| | | cam simpson
Posts : 90 Join date : 2014-10-10
| Subject: Re: Australian Zulu War veterans Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:05 pm | |
| Here's another one:
WHITE James Grove (Grove-White). Born, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia 1852. Lieutenant, 5th Middlesex Militia. Lieutenant, 57th (West Middlesex) Foot 12.11.73. Anglo-Zulu War 1879. Musketry Instructor 4.12.78. Captain 2.1.81. Graduated at Staff College 1889. Major Middlesex Regiment 18.9.89. Matabeleland Relief Force Reserve (Mafeking), Matabeleland Rebellion 1896. Lieutenant Colonel and Commanding Officer, 1st Battalion Middlesex Regiment 1898. Resided Kilybyrne, County Cork. ‘JP’ for County Cork and Waterford. ‘DL’ of Waterford and High Sherriff 1910. 1914-18; Lieutenant Colonel, Durhan Light Infantry. Royal Warwickshire Regiment. Colonel and A/QMG. Created a Companion of St Michael and St George (CMG) (LG 1.1.18). He was a recouned local Historian / Geneologist who was known to have transcribing parish registers for a number of years. Died 1938. Author of Historical and Topographical Notes of Buttevant (1905) and An Account of the Yeomanry of Ireland 1796 to 1834 and other associated books. Father; Major in the 40th Foot. |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10911 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Australian Zulu War Veterans Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:51 pm | |
| Good get Cam 90th |
| | | ADMIN
Posts : 4358 Join date : 2008-11-01 Age : 65 Location : KENT
| Subject: Re: Australian Zulu War veterans Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:09 pm | |
| - cam simpson wrote:
- Here's another one:
WHITE James Grove (Grove-White). Born, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia 1852. Lieutenant, 5th Middlesex Militia. Lieutenant, 57th (West Middlesex) Foot 12.11.73. Anglo-Zulu War 1879. Musketry Instructor 4.12.78. Captain 2.1.81. Graduated at Staff College 1889. Major Middlesex Regiment 18.9.89. Matabeleland Relief Force Reserve (Mafeking), Matabeleland Rebellion 1896. Lieutenant Colonel and Commanding Officer, 1st Battalion Middlesex Regiment 1898. Resided Kilybyrne, County Cork. ‘JP’ for County Cork and Waterford. ‘DL’ of Waterford and High Sherriff 1910. 1914-18; Lieutenant Colonel, Durhan Light Infantry. Royal Warwickshire Regiment. Colonel and A/QMG. Created a Companion of St Michael and St George (CMG) (LG 1.1.18). He was a recouned local Historian / Geneologist who was known to have transcribing parish registers for a number of years. Died 1938. Author of Historical and Topographical Notes of Buttevant (1905) and An Account of the Yeomanry of Ireland 1796 to 1834 and other associated books. Father; Major in the 40th Foot. https://www.1879zuluwar.com/t3702-colonel-james-grove-white?highlight=WHITE |
| | | | Australian Zulu War veterans | |
|
Similar topics | |
|
| Permissions in this forum: | You cannot reply to topics in this forum
| |
| |
| |