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PostSubject: Brevet Major Stuart Smith, N Battery, 5th Brigade, Royal Artillery   Brevet Major Stuart Smith, N Battery, 5th Brigade, Royal Artillery EmptySat Apr 16, 2016 3:58 pm

A new acquisition:

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Brevet Major Stuart Smith, killed at Isandlwana.
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PostSubject: Re: Brevet Major Stuart Smith, N Battery, 5th Brigade, Royal Artillery   Brevet Major Stuart Smith, N Battery, 5th Brigade, Royal Artillery EmptySat Apr 16, 2016 11:46 pm

Magnificent!!!
This picture must have been taken several years before 1879...
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Well done JY , excellent ' get ' . Was it a bargain scratch , maybe I don't want to now ? Very Happy Salute
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PostSubject: Re: Brevet Major Stuart Smith, N Battery, 5th Brigade, Royal Artillery   Brevet Major Stuart Smith, N Battery, 5th Brigade, Royal Artillery EmptySun Apr 17, 2016 10:35 am

Gary,

It was a bargain.

I will e-mail you on the subject.

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PostSubject: Re: Brevet Major Stuart Smith, N Battery, 5th Brigade, Royal Artillery   Brevet Major Stuart Smith, N Battery, 5th Brigade, Royal Artillery EmptySun Apr 17, 2016 8:39 pm

Frederic,

I don't think the photograph was taken too long before 1879, personally I would hazard a guess at 1877/8 prior to his embarking for the Cape.

This was how he looked circa 1866, we can pin the date down by the pattern of the patrol jacket, which was abolished in that year.

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Lieutenant Stuart Smith, circa 1866.
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The well-known image in MacKinnon & Shadbolt pre-dates his promotion to Captain in 1877, and I think he looks older in my recent photograph, hence my conclusion as to a possible date.

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PostSubject: Re: Brevet Major Stuart Smith, N Battery, 5th Brigade, Royal Artillery   Brevet Major Stuart Smith, N Battery, 5th Brigade, Royal Artillery EmptySun Apr 17, 2016 9:16 pm

Bonsoir Mr Young,
I am both very intrigued and interested by your last comment.
My previous comment (a pure speculation) was based on a photography (undated) of Stuart Smith published in the "Silver book" by IK (p.52).
The "study" of this photograph shows that:
-Stuart SMITH "lost his hairs " (I.E:balding);
-His equipment includes a "pooh" hat. It seems to me that the "pooh hat" was abandonned in the Royal Artillery a few years before 1879.
Unfortunately I was not able to decipher his rank on this photography.

As usual, happy to be corrected.


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PostSubject: Re: Brevet Major Stuart Smith, N Battery, 5th Brigade, Royal Artillery   Brevet Major Stuart Smith, N Battery, 5th Brigade, Royal Artillery EmptySun Apr 17, 2016 9:47 pm

Frederic,

In the photograph from the Royal Archives, Stuart Smith is wearing the insignia of a Lieutenant, whilst serving in A Battery, A Brigade, Royal Horse Artillery.

By "pooh hat" I take you mean his busby?  The Royal Horse Artillery first adopted the busby in 1837, and it is still in use to this day by officers of The King's Troop, Royal Horse Artillery.

Stuart Smith was a Lieutenant between 1865 and 1877.  As to his look at some of the other officers on campaign they have had their heads shaved.  Smith had served in India for a long time so the image could been taken whilst serving there on his return from overseas service.

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PostSubject: Re: Brevet Major Stuart Smith, N Battery, 5th Brigade, Royal Artillery   Brevet Major Stuart Smith, N Battery, 5th Brigade, Royal Artillery EmptySun Apr 17, 2016 10:08 pm

Mr Young,
Your answer is very instructive for me.
You solve a mystery for me (the supposed baldness) and correcting a false belief: the busby (I.E; the "pooh hat") was still in use in 1879 in the Royal Horse Artillery.
Thank you very much.

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PostSubject: Re: Brevet Major Stuart Smith, N Battery, 5th Brigade, Royal Artillery   Brevet Major Stuart Smith, N Battery, 5th Brigade, Royal Artillery EmptySun Apr 17, 2016 10:42 pm

Agreed he does look older, what a great image, dashing and
handsome..num 31!. i wont bug you JY about the release date..
i get Hellions updates by e mail every other day it seems, so
i guess patience will have its reward!. but i'm more than itching
to get my mitts on it. i'm so pleased its in hardback, its sure to
be a great success.
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PostSubject: Re: Brevet Major Stuart Smith, N Battery, 5th Brigade, Royal Artillery   Brevet Major Stuart Smith, N Battery, 5th Brigade, Royal Artillery EmptySun Apr 17, 2016 10:48 pm

Les,

The book launches on 19th May 2016 at The North Down Museum, Bangor, Co. Down.

Sadly I can't make the journey on doctor's orders.

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PostSubject: Re: Brevet Major Stuart Smith, N Battery, 5th Brigade, Royal Artillery   Brevet Major Stuart Smith, N Battery, 5th Brigade, Royal Artillery EmptyMon Apr 18, 2016 4:20 pm

Thanks JY, that's great news,i will be getting into Hellions
ribs to chase my copy along.. surely there an op on the
horizon for you?. take it easy.
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