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PostSubject: Sergeant B Smith, 1977, 1.24th foot   Sergeant B Smith, 1977, 1.24th foot EmptyThu Jul 06, 2017 9:04 am

Sergeant B Smith was an ancestor of mine. I have his 1879 campaign medal ( with 1879 clasp ) and would be interested in any information that is out there about it's background / likely action that he saw, or even his first name !
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What is his number on the medal?

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PostSubject: Re: Sergeant B Smith, 1977, 1.24th foot   Sergeant B Smith, 1977, 1.24th foot EmptyThu Jul 06, 2017 12:03 pm

Hi Chris Reeson

Welcome to the forum.

His first name is  Benjamin.

I do have a copy of his service record.

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PostSubject: Re: Sergeant B Smith, 1977, 1.24th foot   Sergeant B Smith, 1977, 1.24th foot EmptyThu Jul 06, 2017 12:15 pm

Wow - Good to see this. What would the left side look like ? I can only see the right ? , so I don't know what the questions were to which I can see the answers. Thanks massively for this.
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PostSubject: Re: Sergeant B Smith, 1977, 1.24th foot   Sergeant B Smith, 1977, 1.24th foot EmptyThu Jul 06, 2017 12:32 pm

Superb, thanks so much !
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PostSubject: Re: Sergeant B Smith, 1977, 1.24th foot   Sergeant B Smith, 1977, 1.24th foot EmptyThu Jul 06, 2017 2:47 pm

Chris

Benjamin originally enlisted into the 19th Foot (Green Howards) and volunteered for Service in South Africa after the disaster at Isandlwana. The number in the right top corner of the enlistment papers above 1344 is probably his 2/19th number. It is likely that he returned to the 19th Foot. He did not reach Zululand and probably stayed in PMB.

SMITH Benjamin – Sergeant – 25B/1977 – 1st/24th
Born Halifax, Yorkshire, England c.1844.
Service details: Promoted to Corporal 15/12/1873 ante-dated 13/12/1873.
Promoted to Sergeant 19/9/1874 with 2/19th Foot.
Arrived in South Africa with draft aboard the Transport Clyde from 2nd/19th 4th Brigade Depot Richmond, Yorkshire 1/3/1879.
Serving at St. Botolph Camp, Colchester, Essex c. April 1881 aged 37 years.
Honours/awards: South Africa Medal 1877-8-9 with clasp 1879.
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Kenny
Smith was awarded the 1879 clasp, would that not indicate he 'crossed the border' ?
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PostSubject: Re: Sergeant B Smith, 1977, 1.24th foot   Sergeant B Smith, 1977, 1.24th foot EmptyThu Jul 06, 2017 4:02 pm

Frank,

You are right - suffer a senior moment this morning.
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