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PostSubject: Request help identifying landmarks around Isandlwana   Request help identifying landmarks around Isandlwana EmptyMon Jul 24, 2017 9:27 pm

Open Request - - Is there any one map of the Isandlwana battlefield showing all landmark mountains and heights scouted and skirmished in by Chelmsford's forces - - -Qwabe, Hlazakazi, Malakatha, Magogo, Ndutshana, Phindo, etc? I would like to get a better comfort level of location name and distance as I continue my study of the battle. I visited Isandlwana last August but was viewing my photos recently which raised my question: when looking East at the Conical Hill from on top of the Spur, across the plain there are 2 "hills" on the right of Amatutshana and 2 elongated heights running south-to-north on the left - - - just would like to put a name to these landmarks and all others. Thanks in advance for any assistance, Larry
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PostSubject: Re: Request help identifying landmarks around Isandlwana   Request help identifying landmarks around Isandlwana EmptyMon Jul 24, 2017 10:35 pm

In my experience there is no single map (contemporary or modern) which shows all those locations by name. The modern survey map of the area shows the topography very accurately but does not name names. The following version, based on Google Earth, is an attempt to pull various maps together. Those who know the ground may want to suggest adjustments but it is about right I think. Heights and distances can be calculated by going to Google Earth. Beware that some authors call the same locations by different names.

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PostSubject: Request Identifying Landmarks around Isandlwana    Request help identifying landmarks around Isandlwana EmptyTue Jul 25, 2017 3:31 am

Hi Brillo
If I'm following your directions properly looking East from the Spur the two heights on the Left are Isiphezi which is furtherest left ( Zulu Dawn was filmed there ) and then to its right is Silhutshana and Magogo to the right of Silhutshana . hopefully I understood your question ?
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Thanks for the response rusteze and 90th. It all helps.
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Salute Cheers Brillo 1970
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The information on the map is open to interpretation but the layout is pretty good.
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So photobucket doesn't work anymore?
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My Photobucket library still seems OK but it will not let me post images on third party sites anymore without paying an exorbitant fee. Now using imgur.

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PostSubject: Re: Request help identifying landmarks around Isandlwana   Request help identifying landmarks around Isandlwana EmptyTue Jul 25, 2017 9:37 am

Hi Steve
Ive sent a map to Pete for him to post. It was done by Gerrard Fox and places all the salient fixtures in position with names.
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This is the map Frank refers to. i posted it recently
on another thread.

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brillo1970, right click and download it so you
can zoom at will. cheers xhosa
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PostSubject: Request Identifying Landmarks around Isandlwana    Request help identifying landmarks around Isandlwana EmptyTue Jul 25, 2017 11:52 am

Hi Frank
That map was drawn by Rob's Sister... Sally Gerrard Fox , hope she doesn't see it on here ! lollll , she might not be happy ..Copyright and all that , Rob kindly gave me a copy .
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PostSubject: Re: Request help identifying landmarks around Isandlwana   Request help identifying landmarks around Isandlwana EmptyTue Jul 25, 2017 12:02 pm

Yes Gary's quite right.. i invoke the fair use policy.
used only for educational purposes!. copywrite
acknowledged.. Sally Gerrard Fox. xhosa

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Good one Les ! lollllll Salute . Hopefully she'll be fine with that .
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Have to admit I didn't put 2 and 2 together with the names.
'Factum Errata.'
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Hey Gary. Salute yes i hope she will be cool about it!.
no disrespect intended.
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I'm pretty certain Sally isn't a member , hopefully she'd be fine with it anyhow .
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Fortunatly my copy wasn't posted..............
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