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Subject: Outlying burial cairns Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:12 am
Hi
Not knowing how thorough the search of Isandlwana was in May 1879 etc (nor the area today), does anyone know if there are any outlying cairns - for example for the rocket detachment or are there any others to indicate casualties (if any) during Durnfords retreat or his occupation of the dongas or have these been lost to time 7 erosion?
Are there burial cairns in the kraal, were the NNMC are said to have been victim of a friendly fire incident, when Lt Roberts (I think) was killed.
Cheers
Sime
Frank Allewell
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Subject: Re: Outlying burial cairns Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:27 am
Simon With the Rocket Battery, there was a report some time after all the burials that further bodies were visible around two miles from the camp area. These were assumed to be the RB but the location was never recorded and there are no cairns. If you consider that over 100 men were killed with the rocket battery (See Nourse) then its a bit of a mystery why no cairns were constructed. The position of the Roberts kraal is also unknown, suspected but not known. There were two possibly three cairns on the plateau that disapeared early 70s, around the time the top track stated to get widened. They were recorded by George Chadwick, and that record is a whole new conversation. The nearest cairns to the Durnford Donga are around 100 to 150 metres or so closer to the camp. Early perceptions of the camp and the cairns were pretty abysmal. When Mainwaring visited a number of years afterwards and was walking the battle field with a local councilor responsible for the area, the councilor was astounded that there were cairns leading along Fugitives trail and didn't believe it until shown by Mainwaring. Incidently I was shown those top two cairns by George Chadwick around 1969. Adrian Greaves also saw them around the same time. The most 'outlying' cairns are probably those on the side of the 'swamp' on top of Mpethe. Pretty sure Gary has photos of them.
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Subject: Re: Outlying burial cairns Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:50 am
Hi Frank Your above statement is very interesting mate when they made that dirt road on the notch did it drastically change the typology of the terrain in the area have you seen of any early photos taken pre 70s of that area mate which would have changed little in apperance before the construction of all these dirt roads leading into the main battle field.
It would be great if you can post any old photos of the area seeing your knowledge of the battlefield is unparalleled
Thanks mate : Salute:
Frank Allewell
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Hi Aussie Yes it did, along with building the Lodge. Ive sent a couple of photos to Pete for posting. In the very early shot of iSandlwana just behind what is now the front of the lodge you will see no track at all. In the aerial photo the traditional track is very visible to the east of what is now the lodge. There are no tracks to the West of the lodge. The hole topography of the ridge has changed since 1879, by a hell of a lot.
Cheers
aussie inkosi
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Subject: Re: Outlying burial cairns Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:47 am
Hi Frank thanks for the above post can not wait to see these photos what year were they taken mate ?
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