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PostSubject: P76 bayonet markings/stamps   P76 bayonet markings/stamps EmptyThu May 03, 2018 5:43 pm

Hi,

Does anyone know anything about Martini Henry P76 bayonet markings?

I have had one for a number of years and was looking at the markings trying to determine what they meant.

I have sussed out what some are (inspectors mark, broad arrow, crown) but not all of them.

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PostSubject: Re: P76 bayonet markings/stamps   P76 bayonet markings/stamps EmptyThu May 03, 2018 8:19 pm

That would be our forum expert Neil Aspensaw. Drop him a PM.
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PostSubject: Re: P76 bayonet markings/stamps   P76 bayonet markings/stamps EmptyWed Jun 13, 2018 1:04 pm

Late on this, the common long socket bayonet will have several markings. The proof inspection stamps, which will be Enfield or BSA & M Co. Then "R" which is the post 1881 bend & retest test marks. Look out for rack numbers and often "F.W.A." Fort William Arsenal and on those emanating from Nepal the Nagri regimental texts on the plain faces.

A small crown and "B.R". is Birmingham Repair, Bagot Street.
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PostSubject: Re: P76 bayonet markings/stamps   P76 bayonet markings/stamps EmptyThu Jun 14, 2018 5:45 am

Thanks a lot Neil,

I will get my magnifying glass out.....

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PostSubject: Re: P76 bayonet markings/stamps   P76 bayonet markings/stamps EmptySat Jun 16, 2018 9:40 am

Hi Neil,

The bayonet has these markings:-

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I assume that 616 is the racking number and this number should also be on the metal work on the scabbard - which in this case is 509 - so the bayonet and scabbard are not an original pair?

There is also another number on the brasswork - which is similar to the 'crown 27 E' (on the blade) but looks like '28' or '29' E.

Does the 'E' stand for Enfield?

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PostSubject: Re: P76 bayonet markings/stamps   P76 bayonet markings/stamps EmptyMon Jun 18, 2018 12:18 pm

Hi

I have since found out that the 'Crown 27 E' is a makers inspection mark and the scabbard is the MkII pattern

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PostSubject: Re: P76 bayonet markings/stamps   P76 bayonet markings/stamps EmptyMon Jun 18, 2018 1:51 pm

This is not a P76 but a Yataghan - but equally unsure what the markings signify (such as they are). For comparison is a French Yataghan and so much more impressive! Markings could not be clearer, made at the Manufacture Imperiale de Mutzig in October 1867. Now why couldn't we manage that?
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