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![Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:49 am | |
| Some very interesting photos of the Manzimyama Stream area from Frank. The first is a remarkable (and early) photo of an impi making its way along the Manzimyama stream that I have not seen before. Frank has taken a recent comparison shot which I have put alongside. The third picture is what looks like a demolished cairn on the west bank of the stream.I will leave Frank to comment further. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Steve Reinstadtler |
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![Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:39 am | |
| On Boasts sketch he does indicate a number of cairns on the western side of the Manzimyama. In the early photo theres at least 6 fairly large cairns which would indicate around 30 to40 bodies. Would this in fact be the last stand? Or would it be all the exhausted fugitives being put to the sword. I have located some scattered piles of rocks in the aprox position, they could of course be anything but as per the one in the picture they do seem to have a structure about what is left. Again of interest is the amount of bush covering the battlefield. Cheers |
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![Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:44 am | |
| Hi Steve/Frank
Any ideas of the date of the 'impi' photo and what the warriors were up to?
Could it possibly be a still from the 'Symbol of Sacrifice' - movie?
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Simon |
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![Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:50 am | |
| Sime I don't know, the file I found them in has a number of old photos, including a shot of a cannon being towed along the old dirt road to iSandlwana from RD. At a guess looking at the collection I would put it around the Bambatha rebellion time, but that's such a guess. Hopefully JY can shed some light. Im happy to post the rest if it will help to date them. |
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![Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:32 pm | |
| Sime, I would doubt it was from Symbol of Sacrifice as - to my knowledge - the iSandlwana scenes were filmed in the Transvaal. For some reason the Prince Imperial scenes were filmed in KZN. Looking at the photograph enlarged there appear to be quite a few Europeans amongst the Zulu. I think it is one of Gugu’s early rehearsals for next year. JY |
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![Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:38 pm | |
| For my shame - I have the film on DVD but I have never been able to get my wife & kids off the TV, long enough for me to watch it yet...... |
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![Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:36 pm | |
| Two more early photos from Frank. The film speed was sufficient to capture the moving gun team so I guess the photos must be 1900 or later. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Steve Reinstadtler |
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![Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:49 pm | |
| John if I may be so presumptious to post one of your photos from a similar angle? |
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![Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:00 pm | |
| Frank,
Post away old chap.
Looking at the gun crew I would hazard a guess at the Natal Field Artillery, circa the 1906 Rebellion.
I can’t make out if that is a gun-shield or limber playing tricks on my eyes. If it is gun-shield we could looking the Great War period.
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