WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM

Film Zulu quote: Reverend Otto Witt: One thousand British soldiers have been massacred. While I stood here talking peace, a war has started.
 
HomeHome  GalleryGallery  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
» Sir Robert Gordon Gilmour
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyYesterday at 10:06 am by ADMIN

» Lieutenant Anthony Kingscote, HMS Tenedos
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyYesterday at 4:34 am by 90th

» Lieutenant Frederick Streatfield Pelly, RN
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyTue Sep 29, 2020 4:09 pm by 1879graves

» KEYNSHAMLIGHTHORSE GRAVES WEBSITE
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyTue Sep 29, 2020 8:08 am by ADMIN

» William De Passey, 17th Lancers.1879.
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptySat Sep 26, 2020 7:38 pm by 1879graves

» Regimental numbers
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyFri Sep 25, 2020 12:55 pm by Frank Allewell

» Lance Corporal Robert Eaton NMP
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyFri Sep 25, 2020 11:25 am by Frank Allewell

» Isandlwana, Last Stands
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyFri Sep 25, 2020 9:13 am by Julian Whybra

» Colour of Lord Chelsmford eyes
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyFri Sep 25, 2020 8:05 am by Simonsole

» List of identified bodies at Isandlwana
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyThu Sep 17, 2020 5:30 am by John Young

» Defenders of Rorkes Drift
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyWed Sep 16, 2020 6:47 pm by Digger

» Colour Sgt Anthony Clark Booth, VC.
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyTue Sep 15, 2020 6:47 pm by ADMIN

» Cpl John Lyons
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyMon Sep 14, 2020 7:49 pm by Bill8183

» A Case of Mistaken Identity?
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyMon Sep 14, 2020 11:29 am by John Young

» What happened next
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyMon Sep 14, 2020 10:51 am by Springbok

» Surgeon Espine Charles Ward
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyWed Sep 09, 2020 9:38 am by John Young

» 2nd Lieutenant William Lancelot James, 2nd/4th Regiment.
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyMon Sep 07, 2020 2:41 pm by ADMIN

» Explaining Amabutho in one word??
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyMon Sep 07, 2020 11:49 am by SRB1965

» Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyThu Sep 03, 2020 4:05 pm by Frank Allewell

» Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Artillery
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyWed Sep 02, 2020 8:01 pm by Catiline63

» Colonel William,Egerton Saunders, C.B
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 10:46 pm by ADMIN

» Lieutenant-Colonel David Campbell Williamson.
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 10:32 pm by ADMIN

» Brigade Surgeon E. J. Boulton
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 10:02 pm by ADMIN

» Joseph Walter O’Malley Martin. Assistant Surgeon
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 9:52 pm by ADMIN

» Quarter-Master William London
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 9:32 pm by ADMIN

» Surgeon Major Henry Lamb
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 9:19 pm by ADMIN

» Lieutenant Robert Thomas Graves Lowry
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 9:13 pm by ADMIN

» Sgt. John Philip Archbell NNC
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 8:43 pm by ADMIN

» Tpr. John Ross Natal Carbineer
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 8:27 pm by ADMIN

» Non-Combat Casualties in Colonial and Native Units
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 11:52 am by Julian Whybra

» Victorian HMS SHAH South Africa Zulu Wars Medal William Morrison Royal Navy
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyFri Aug 28, 2020 5:50 pm by Petty Officer Tom

» South African 1879 Zulu War medal to Corp R Starkey 57th Regiment of Foot
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyFri Aug 28, 2020 3:50 pm by 1879graves

» 2/4th Foot at Hlobane/Kambula
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyFri Aug 28, 2020 4:12 am by 90th

» England's Sons 9th edition
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyWed Aug 26, 2020 6:20 pm by Herbie

» Strange tales from Isandlwana
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptySun Aug 23, 2020 4:25 pm by SRB1965

Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
Black as Hell, Thick as Grass
Top posters
90th
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Bar_leftWas Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  BarWas Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Bar_leftWas Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  BarWas Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Bar_right 
littlehand
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Bar_leftWas Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  BarWas Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Bar_right 
ADMIN
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Bar_leftWas Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  BarWas Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Bar_right 
1879graves
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Bar_leftWas Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  BarWas Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Bar_right 
rusteze
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Bar_leftWas Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  BarWas Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Bar_right 
Chelmsfordthescapegoat
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Bar_leftWas Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  BarWas Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Bar_right 
John
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Bar_leftWas Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  BarWas Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Bar_right 
Mr M. Cooper
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Bar_leftWas Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  BarWas Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Bar_right 
Julian Whybra
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Bar_leftWas Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  BarWas Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Bar_right 
Top posting users this month
Most active topics
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Durnford was he capable.1
Durnford was he capable. 4
Durnford was he capable.5
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The ammunition question
Durnford was he capable. 3
Durnford was he capable.2
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Most Viewed Topics
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Adding to the Library
The ammunition question
Recent Members To The ZULU WAR 1879 Discussion & Reference Forum ( A Small Victorian War in 1879)
ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS
Durnford was he capable.5
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Lieutenant Adendorff 1-3 N.N.C.
Fair Use Notice
Fair use notice. This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner. We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website. If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution.
Keywords
harford john drift horse Isandlwana henry martini melvill smith Woolfryes james Russell taylor spalding gardner william Durnford payne Natal Franklin 24th Police zulu George Prince Mounted

 

 Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?

Go down 
AuthorMessage
Chelmsfordthescapegoat

Chelmsfordthescapegoat

Posts : 2583
Join date : 2009-04-24

Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Empty
PostSubject: Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?    Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyWed Dec 12, 2018 1:04 am

Can't get to grips with this. What's he saying that the men were out of the camp before Durnford arrived. It's from another officer of engineers.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Back to top Go down
90th

90th

Posts : 10137
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 64
Location : Melbourne, Australia

Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Empty
PostSubject: Was Durnford responsible for sending the troops out of camp    Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyWed Dec 12, 2018 8:56 am

HiCTS
It is a tad confusing , how I see it is that Henry Crozier RE saw the letter in ' The Times ' , and then sent it on to the Christchurch paper , by the way Crozier wasn't in Sth Africa during the AZW , as you can see he signs off the letter from himself , at Taunton UK ( ? ) .The original sender of the letter is using an extract from Chard's account , the white men mentioned in Column will be LC and his men heading to Mangeni , Chard states in this report he meets Durnford a mile or so from the camp , when he ( Chard ) is heading back to RD , this is well known , as he was going back to the Drift he met Durnford coming up from the drift , Durnford gives him some orders to pass along to the rest of his column that are still moving up behind him ( Durnford ) , hope this makes it a little clearer ?
90th
Back to top Go down
rusteze

rusteze

Posts : 2881
Join date : 2010-06-02

Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?    Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyWed Dec 12, 2018 11:13 am

I'm not sure that quite works. Chard says nothing in his official account about white troops in column about a mile from camp. What we do know is that he spends very little time there and meets up with Durnford on his return to RD about a quarter mile from camp. Durnford then hurries forward and arrives at about 10.30. So lets say Chard had met him at about 10.00 - by then Chelmsford, who had been travelling since 4.00 am, was considerably more than a mile from camp and was no longer visible. What we do know is that Chard's arrival pretty much co-incides with the first stand-to alert when the companies of the 24th were lined up in front of the camp - I think it likely it was that which Chard witnessed.

Steve
Back to top Go down
90th

90th

Posts : 10137
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 64
Location : Melbourne, Australia

Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Empty
PostSubject: Was Durnford responsible for sending the troops out of camp    Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  EmptyWed Dec 12, 2018 12:39 pm

Yes Steve that's right , LC had departed very early in the morning , so Chard couldn't have seen them , must admit I didn't remember Chard ever saying he saw a column of white men about a mile from Camp . ActuallyI've just re read it , he may mean the companies out on the firing line , they were out a fair bit , but I think a mile is stretching it . scratch scratch
90th
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content




Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?    Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?  Empty

Back to top Go down
 
Was Durnford responsible for sending troops out the camp?
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM  :: GENERAL DISCUSSION AREA-
Jump to: