WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM

Film Zulu Dawn:General Lord Chelmsford: For a savage, as for a child, chastisement is sometimes a kindness. Sir Henry Bartle Frere: Let us hope, General, that this will be the final solution to the Zulu problem.
 
HomeHome  GalleryGallery  Latest imagesLatest images  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
» Anson A. Mayer/Maher
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyYesterday at 7:10 pm by cmeghen

» Late Father's Militaria Collection
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptySun Apr 21, 2024 2:16 pm by Julian Whybra

» A Hungarian soldier in the Zulu War (?)
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptySun Apr 21, 2024 11:28 am by Eddie

» Lieut. B. Pohl, No. 7 Coy 1/3 Natal Native Contingent
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptySat Apr 20, 2024 9:26 am by SRB1965

» Alfred Fairlie Henderson photographs.
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyFri Apr 19, 2024 7:04 am by John Young

» No. 985. PTE. EDWARD READ. 2-24 Regt. (South Wales Borders).
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptySun Apr 14, 2024 8:12 pm by Julian Whybra

» Private Willis 2/24th Regiment his letter from South Africa
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptySat Apr 13, 2024 2:49 pm by 1879graves

» Sickness among Crealock's men
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyFri Apr 12, 2024 4:52 pm by Hobbes

» Wheeler John Cantwell DCM, RD survivor of the Royal Horse Artillery
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyTue Apr 09, 2024 5:20 pm by Kenny

» Brevet Major W.R.B. Chamberlin
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptySun Apr 07, 2024 5:44 pm by Jager1

» Private 1941 Samuel MacClue / McClune 1/24th Regiment
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptySun Apr 07, 2024 3:11 pm by Dash

» Sergeant W E Warren RA - Veteran
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptySun Apr 07, 2024 10:50 am by DavidS

» "With 6 good riflemen"
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptySat Apr 06, 2024 5:10 pm by Hobbes

» Punch's view of Chelmsford's tactics!
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyWed Apr 03, 2024 5:17 pm by SRB1965

» Colonialism: A Moral Legacy
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyMon Apr 01, 2024 11:16 am by Julian Whybra

» John Robert Dunn
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptySat Mar 30, 2024 12:09 pm by 90th

» An early memorial to the Prince Imperial?
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptySat Mar 30, 2024 10:35 am by John Young

» The Poem "A Child Hero" referring to Rupert Weatherley
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyFri Mar 29, 2024 1:07 pm by Bongo

» Writing advice
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyTue Mar 26, 2024 2:26 pm by Julian Whybra

» Private John Scott 24th Regiment a fugitive at large
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyWed Mar 20, 2024 12:53 pm by Dash

» Your favourite line from Zulu or Zulu Dawn
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyTue Mar 19, 2024 4:52 pm by Julian Whybra

» 100,000 posts!
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyTue Mar 19, 2024 2:20 pm by Julian Whybra

» Zulu Dawn/Zulu - New Immortals Film The Way Forward ?
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptySat Mar 16, 2024 2:34 pm by jgregory

» Badge on 2/60th and 3/60th foreign service helmets
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptySat Mar 16, 2024 11:05 am by John Young

» Corporal James Frowen Williams F Company.
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyFri Mar 15, 2024 9:08 am by Julian Whybra

» British rations and morale
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyMon Mar 11, 2024 11:05 pm by Julian Whybra

» Blue Plaque to James Egan, alias Private Hagan
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyMon Mar 11, 2024 9:16 pm by ADMIN

» A few questions regarding Rorke's Drift and Isandlwana
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyWed Mar 06, 2024 9:16 pm by Julian Whybra

» William J Hoare 24th Regiment??
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptySun Mar 03, 2024 7:08 pm by Dash

» Swinburn Carbine issue in AZW
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyThu Feb 29, 2024 12:53 pm by Rob D

» Australians who went to Zululand and fought in the 1879 war.
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyThu Feb 29, 2024 8:39 am by John Young

» Philip Price
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyThu Feb 29, 2024 7:55 am by Julian Whybra

» Alfred Fairlie Henderson
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyThu Feb 29, 2024 7:47 am by RoryReynolds

» August Hammar Letter Dated 6th Jan 1879
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyThu Feb 22, 2024 8:34 pm by Stefaan

» Bearing The Cross by Ken Blakeson | BBC RADIO DRAMA: Ken Blakeson's play tells the story of the Battle of Rorke's Drift and the effect it had on three of the soldiers who fought in it.
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyWed Feb 21, 2024 10:57 am by Julian Whybra

Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
April 2024
MonTueWedThuFriSatSun
1234567
891011121314
15161718192021
22232425262728
2930     
CalendarCalendar
Most active topics
Durnford was he capable.1
Durnford was he capable. 4
Durnford was he capable.5
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Isandlwana, Last Stands
The ammunition question
Durnford was he capable. 3
Durnford was he capable.2
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Most Viewed Topics
Please Do Not Post Ads on Our Forum
Google Chrome new standards imposed
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Recent Members To The ZULU WAR 1879 Discussion & Reference Forum ( A Small Victorian War in 1879)
The missing five hours.
ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS
The ammunition question
Lieutenant Adendorff 1-3 N.N.C.
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Top posting users this month
Hobbes
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  Bar_leftPerson from Cape Mounted Rifles  BarPerson from Cape Mounted Rifles  Bar_right 
John Young
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  Bar_leftPerson from Cape Mounted Rifles  BarPerson from Cape Mounted Rifles  Bar_right 
Julian Whybra
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  Bar_leftPerson from Cape Mounted Rifles  BarPerson from Cape Mounted Rifles  Bar_right 
SRB1965
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  Bar_leftPerson from Cape Mounted Rifles  BarPerson from Cape Mounted Rifles  Bar_right 
Kenny
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  Bar_leftPerson from Cape Mounted Rifles  BarPerson from Cape Mounted Rifles  Bar_right 
A Crockart
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  Bar_leftPerson from Cape Mounted Rifles  BarPerson from Cape Mounted Rifles  Bar_right 
Petty Officer Tom
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  Bar_leftPerson from Cape Mounted Rifles  BarPerson from Cape Mounted Rifles  Bar_right 
Jager1
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  Bar_leftPerson from Cape Mounted Rifles  BarPerson from Cape Mounted Rifles  Bar_right 
sekukuni
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  Bar_leftPerson from Cape Mounted Rifles  BarPerson from Cape Mounted Rifles  Bar_right 
Eddie
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  Bar_leftPerson from Cape Mounted Rifles  BarPerson from Cape Mounted Rifles  Bar_right 
New topics
» Lieut. B. Pohl, No. 7 Coy 1/3 Natal Native Contingent
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptySat Apr 20, 2024 12:38 am by WeekendWarrior

» Alfred Fairlie Henderson photographs.
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyFri Apr 19, 2024 7:04 am by John Young

» Late Father's Militaria Collection
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyThu Apr 18, 2024 3:04 pm by A Crockart

» Anson A. Mayer/Maher
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyTue Apr 16, 2024 5:28 pm by cmeghen

» A Hungarian soldier in the Zulu War (?)
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptySun Apr 14, 2024 8:01 pm by Hobbes

» Sickness among Crealock's men
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyThu Apr 11, 2024 8:51 pm by Hobbes

» Wheeler John Cantwell DCM, RD survivor of the Royal Horse Artillery
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptySun Apr 07, 2024 9:36 pm by Hobbes

» John Robert Dunn
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptySat Mar 30, 2024 11:47 am by SueSNB

» The Poem "A Child Hero" referring to Rupert Weatherley
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyFri Mar 29, 2024 1:07 pm by Bongo

Similar topics
Zero tolerance to harassment and bullying.
Due to recent events on this forum, we have now imposed a zero tolerance to harassment and bullying. All reports will be treated seriously, and will lead to a permanent ban of both membership and IP address. Any member blatantly corresponding in a deliberate and provoking manner will be removed from the forum as quickly as possible after the event.  If any members are being harassed behind the scenes PM facility by any member/s here at 1879zuluwar.com please do not hesitate to forward the offending text.  We are all here to communicate and enjoy the various discussions and information on the Anglo Zulu War of 1879. Opinions will vary, you will agree and disagree with one another, we will have debates, and so it goes. There is no excuse for harassment or bullying of anyone by another person on this site. The above applies to the main frame areas of the forum. The ring which is the last section on the forum, is available to those members who wish to partake in slagging matches. That section cannot be viewed by guests and only viewed by members that wish to do so. 
Fair Use Notice
Fair use notice. This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner. We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website. If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution.
 

 Person from Cape Mounted Rifles

Go down 
3 posters
AuthorMessage
Ablebaker




Posts : 2
Join date : 2018-12-28
Location : Oxford, UK

Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  Empty
PostSubject: Person from Cape Mounted Rifles    Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyMon Dec 31, 2018 11:27 am

This is a request for your expert advice.

There are two people in a medal roll record I found on ancestry.co.uk. Both may have lived in Kimberley in 1877, one definitely did.

The medal roll is WO 100/48 pages 194 and 195 (War Office: Campaign Medal and Award Rolls 1793-1949) stored at Kew.

These pages cover 22 people in the Cape Mounted Rifles, No. 8 Troop. The entry was signed at King Williams Town on 16 June 1881.

The people are Pvt David George Healey and and Pvt Samuel John Terrill. Both were engaged against 1) Gaikas, Galekas, and other tibes 1877-'8 and 2) The Griquas, 1878. Both were marked as Discharged.

Samuel John Terrill (1857 Cornwall-1883 Kimberley) I know to be a brother of my great-grandmother. I know his origin, a Cornish mining family, which been in Brazil.

My great grandfather was David George Healey (abt 1843 - 1898 Kimberley), hence, the likelihood that Pvt George Healey is the same person. But we have no information about where he was born, or date of birth.

According to a family source, accuracy not known, he fought in the First Boer War (1880-81).

Although he is known from the time of his marriage, his origins are generally a mystery. Death certificate gives age as 55 in 1998, therefore born about 1843. Marriage record gives age as 30 in 1883, therfore born 1853! A correspondent in SA kindly inspected his meagre estate papers in Cape Town, but they give no clues about where he came from. At the time of his marriage in Kimberley, 1883, his occupation was given as Governor of Gaol; on the baptism record for one of his children, Superintendent of HM Prison.

I think the question I would ask the experts is:

Given one military record (medal roll), is it possible there are others, even if they are not on-line?
Where might they be stored?

And just in case you simply know absolutely everything, he had a pension. Where might pension records for a Superintendant of Kimberley Gaol be, if they exist?

Siege of Kimberley, yes. Boer War, yes. But no direct connection with Zulu wars that I know of. In England in about 1974, it was watching Zulu on TV one day, hearing the approach of the unseen impis, that I realised how much I had grown up with the sounds and rhythms of Zulu in my ears.

Best wishes for a happy New year to all at zuluwars.

Martin Notcutt
Oxford
Back to top Go down
90th

90th


Posts : 10882
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 67
Location : Melbourne, Australia

Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  Empty
PostSubject: Person from Cape Mtd Rifles    Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyTue Jan 01, 2019 1:14 am

Hi Martin
There are two books which feature Medal Rolls where the CMR are listed by their Troop , Healey and Terrill are on both Rolls and in both books.
' Forgotten Heroes ; Zulu & Basuto Wars , Including Complete Medal Roll 1877-78-79 ' by Roy Dutton ,
' South African War Medal 1877-78-79 ; The Medal Roll ' by D.R.Forsyth .
Healey and Terrill are entitled to the Medal with Clasp 1877-78 .
90th
Back to top Go down
Ablebaker




Posts : 2
Join date : 2018-12-28
Location : Oxford, UK

Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Person from Cape Mounted Rifles    Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyTue Jan 01, 2019 11:22 am

Hi 90th
Thank you for your quick response. I see my question is not clear. Do you think there will be other kinds of military record? I am not sure what to expect - sign-up papers, service records, Something that might indicate date and place of birth? I realize this may be unlikely, but 1879zuluwars just has to be the right place to ask.
Back to top Go down
90th

90th


Posts : 10882
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 67
Location : Melbourne, Australia

Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  Empty
PostSubject: Person from Cape Mtd Rifles    Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyTue Jan 01, 2019 11:32 am

Hi Martin
I very much doubt it , many of the records regarding the Colonial troops during the Zulu War were actually pulped in 1915 , in an attempt to help the war effort ! , possibly your only chance will be Sth Africa itself , but good luck with that , basically mission impossible from what I can gather... in regard to getting answers from Museums and Archives from over there . The only people that can help you are those which have helped you so far , as they know how it works over there . Someone here might have a an idea , but I doubt Enlistment Records exist for the CMR , especially in the UK .
90th
Back to top Go down
Julian Whybra




Posts : 3957
Join date : 2011-09-12
Location : Billericay, Essex

Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Person from Cape Mounted Rifles    Person from Cape Mounted Rifles  EmptyTue Jan 01, 2019 1:01 pm

Martin
One rider - be wary of Forsyth's roll - it contains many inaccuracies and cannot be taken as Gospel - you would need to double-check its inclusions against a primary source.
Julian
Back to top Go down
 
Person from Cape Mounted Rifles
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» No.3 Troop Cape Mounted Rifles
» Captain Drury Cape Mounted Rifles?
» Thomas Corfield was a Lieutenant in the Cape Mounted Rifles.

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM  :: GENEALOGY-
Jump to: