WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM

Film Zulu. Lieutenant John Chard: The army doesn't like more than one disaster in a day. Bromhead: Looks bad in the newspapers and upsets civilians at their breakfast.
 
HomeHome  GalleryGallery  Latest imagesLatest images  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
» Did Ntishingwayo really not know Lord C wasn't at home
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyToday at 8:34 am by Tig Van Milcroft

» Studies in the Zulu War volume VI now available
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptySat Nov 09, 2024 6:38 pm by Julian Whybra

» Colonel Charles Knight Pearson
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyFri Nov 08, 2024 5:56 pm by LincolnJDH

» Grave of Henry Spalding
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyThu Nov 07, 2024 8:10 pm by 1879graves

» John West at Kambula
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyThu Nov 07, 2024 5:25 pm by MKalny15

» Private Frederick Evans 2/24th
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptySun Nov 03, 2024 8:12 pm by Dash

» How to find medal entitlement Coker
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptySun Nov 03, 2024 10:51 am by Kev T

» Isandlwana Casualty - McCathie/McCarthy
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptySat Nov 02, 2024 1:40 pm by Julian Whybra

» William Jones Comment
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyFri Nov 01, 2024 6:07 pm by Eddie

» Brother of Lt Young
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyFri Nov 01, 2024 5:13 pm by Eddie

» Frederick Marsh - HMS Tenedos
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyFri Nov 01, 2024 9:48 am by lydenburg

» Mr Spiers KIA iSandlwana ?
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyFri Nov 01, 2024 7:50 am by Julian Whybra

» Isandhlwana unaccounted for casualties
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyFri Nov 01, 2024 7:48 am by Julian Whybra

» Thrupps report to Surgeon General Wolfies
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyThu Oct 31, 2024 12:32 pm by Julian Whybra

» Absence of Vereker from Snook's Book
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyFri Oct 25, 2024 10:59 pm by Julian Whybra

» Another Actor related to the Degacher-Hitchcock family
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyMon Oct 21, 2024 1:07 pm by Stefaan

» No. 799 George Williams and his son-in-law No. 243 Thomas Newman
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptySat Oct 19, 2024 12:36 pm by Dash

» Alphonse de Neuville- Painting the Defence of Rorke's Drift
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyFri Oct 18, 2024 8:34 am by Stefaan

» Studies in the Zulu War volumes
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyWed Oct 16, 2024 3:26 pm by Julian Whybra

» Martini Henry carbine IC1 markings
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyMon Oct 14, 2024 10:48 pm by Parkerbloggs

» James Conner 1879 clasp
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyMon Oct 14, 2024 7:12 pm by Kenny

» 80th REG of Foot (Staffords)
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptySun Oct 13, 2024 9:07 pm by shadeswolf

» Frontier Light Horse uniform
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptySun Oct 13, 2024 8:12 pm by Schlaumeier

» Gelsthorpe, G. 1374 Private 1/24th / Scott, Sidney W. 521 Private 1/24th
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptySun Oct 13, 2024 1:00 pm by Dash

» A Bullet Bible
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptySat Oct 12, 2024 8:33 am by Julian Whybra

» Brothers Sears
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyFri Oct 11, 2024 7:17 pm by Eddie

» Zulu War Medal MHS Tamar
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyFri Oct 11, 2024 3:48 pm by philip c

» Ford Park Cemetery, Plymouth.
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyTue Oct 08, 2024 4:15 pm by rai

» Shipping - transport in the AZW
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptySun Oct 06, 2024 10:47 pm by Bill8183

» 1879 South Africa Medal named 1879 BAR
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptySun Oct 06, 2024 12:41 pm by Dash

» A note on Captain Norris Edward Davey, Natal Volunteer Staff.
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptySun Oct 06, 2024 12:16 pm by Julian Whybra

» Isandlwana papers he,d by the RE museum
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptySun Oct 06, 2024 6:06 am by 90th

» An Irish V.C. conundrum?
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyThu Oct 03, 2024 10:51 am by Julian Whybra

» William Moore / William Potter 24th Regiment
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyThu Sep 26, 2024 3:04 pm by Dash

» Stalybridge men in the 24th
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyThu Sep 26, 2024 2:24 pm by Dash

Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
November 2024
MonTueWedThuFriSatSun
    123
45678910
11121314151617
18192021222324
252627282930 
CalendarCalendar
Most active topics
Durnford was he capable.1
Durnford was he capable. 4
Durnford was he capable.5
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Isandlwana, Last Stands
The ammunition question
Durnford was he capable. 3
Durnford was he capable.2
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Most Viewed Topics
Please Do Not Post Ads on Our Forum
Google Chrome new standards imposed
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
In deference to other online platforms discussing the history of the Anglo-Zulu War of 1879
The missing five hours.
ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS
The ammunition question
Recent Members To The ZULU WAR 1879 Discussion & Reference Forum ( A Small Victorian War in 1879)
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Top posting users this month
Julian Whybra
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Bar_leftNon-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines BarNon-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Bar_right 
Tig Van Milcroft
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Bar_leftNon-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines BarNon-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Bar_right 
SRB1965
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Bar_leftNon-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines BarNon-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Bar_right 
warrior3
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Bar_leftNon-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines BarNon-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Bar_right 
Eddie
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Bar_leftNon-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines BarNon-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Bar_right 
MKalny15
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Bar_leftNon-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines BarNon-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Bar_right 
lydenburg
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Bar_leftNon-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines BarNon-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Bar_right 
John Young
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Bar_leftNon-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines BarNon-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Bar_right 
Dash
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Bar_leftNon-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines BarNon-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Bar_right 
Kev T
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Bar_leftNon-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines BarNon-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Bar_right 
New topics
» Colonel Charles Knight Pearson
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyFri Nov 08, 2024 5:56 pm by LincolnJDH

» John West at Kambula
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyMon Nov 04, 2024 11:54 pm by MKalny15

» How to find medal entitlement Coker
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyFri Nov 01, 2024 9:32 am by Kev T

» Frederick Marsh - HMS Tenedos
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyThu Oct 31, 2024 1:42 pm by lydenburg

» Did Ntishingwayo really not know Lord C wasn't at home
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyMon Oct 28, 2024 8:18 am by SRB1965

» Thrupps report to Surgeon General Wolfies
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptySun Oct 27, 2024 11:32 am by SRB1965

» Brother of Lt Young
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptySat Oct 26, 2024 9:52 pm by Eddie

» Absence of Vereker from Snook's Book
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyFri Oct 25, 2024 5:18 pm by JackFinn

» Isandhlwana unaccounted for casualties
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyTue Oct 22, 2024 8:40 pm by JackFinn

Similar topics
Zero tolerance to harassment and bullying.
Due to recent events on this forum, we have now imposed a zero tolerance to harassment and bullying. All reports will be treated seriously, and will lead to a permanent ban of both membership and IP address. Any member blatantly corresponding in a deliberate and provoking manner will be removed from the forum as quickly as possible after the event.  If any members are being harassed behind the scenes PM facility by any member/s here at 1879zuluwar.com please do not hesitate to forward the offending text.  We are all here to communicate and enjoy the various discussions and information on the Anglo Zulu War of 1879. Opinions will vary, you will agree and disagree with one another, we will have debates, and so it goes. There is no excuse for harassment or bullying of anyone by another person on this site. The above applies to the main frame areas of the forum. The ring which is the last section on the forum, is available to those members who wish to partake in slagging matches. That section cannot be viewed by guests and only viewed by members that wish to do so. 
Fair Use Notice
Fair use notice. This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner. We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website. If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution.
 

 Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines

Go down 
5 posters
AuthorMessage
Catiline63

Catiline63


Posts : 28
Join date : 2019-08-24
Location : Burgess Hill, West Sussex

Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Empty
PostSubject: Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines   Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyMon Aug 31, 2020 2:18 pm

Second in my series of AZW non-combat deaths, divided according to corps. Today, the Royal Navy, Royal Marine Artillery, and Royal Marine Light Infantry.
All comments or suggestions would be most welcome.


* HMS Active (RN):
Mid. Lewis Cadwallader COKER. 16-Mar, Eshowe, dysentery.
AB ('krooman') 13B/29 Jim (or Jack) DOUGH. 02-Mar.
AB ('krooman') 13B/26 Tom LIVERPOOL. 03-May, Herwen, fever & general debility.
AB 5/88 Daniel MARTIN. 09-Jan, Lower Tugela, accident (drowning, prob. crocodile attack).
Shoemaker 5/39 John MOORE. 10-Feb, Eshowe, dysentery.
PO, 2nd Cl. (Coxwain of the Cutter) 5/50 Alfred PEARCE. 22-Apr, Lower Tugela, dysentery.
LS 5/211 J. RADFORD. 08-Mar, Eshowe, fever.
AB 5/241 Alfred SMITH. 02-Apr, Eshowe, fever.
OS 15/113 G.M. WALSH. 19-Apr, Lower Tugela, enteric.


* HMS Active (RMA):
Gnr. 11/42 William SEDDON. 02-Jan, Lower Tugela, pneumonia.


* HMS Active (RMLI):
Pte. 11/9 William STAGG. 16-Mar, Eshowe, double pneumonia.


* HMS Boadicea (RN):
Lt. John Burlton BENETT. Haslar Hospital (UK), debility.
Stoker, 2nd Cl. 5/322 J. HARWOOD. 18-May, Herwen, typhoid.
Signalman, 3rd Cl. 13/2 W.F. REID. May, Herwen, fever.


* HMS Shah (RN):
AB 257 Thomas H. BARGE. 09-Jun, Durban, enteric.
AB 288 Owen COOPER. 15-May, Fort Pearson, enteritis.
Ch. Engine Room Artificer 15/187 John W. FILLMORE. 13-Apr, Simon's Bay Hospital.
PO, 1st Cl. (Gunner's Mate) 475 Joseph W. LANGFORD. 21-Jun, Durban, dysentery.
PO, 2nd Cl. (2nd Captain of the Forecastle) 15/183 Joseph F. OATES. July, Haslar Hospital (UK).
AB 588 Richard OLIVER. 12-Jun, Fort Pearson, enteric.
AB 464 Edward SHEPPARD (or SHEPHERD). 17-Jun, Fort Pearson, dysentery.
PO, 2nd Cl. (Cooper) 140 Joseph E. SYMONDS. 03-Jun, Fort Pearson, enteric.
AB 59 James WHEADON. 04-Jun, Fort Crealock, dysentery.


* HMS Shah (RMA):
Gnr. 101 Philip CRUMPTON. 31-May, Durban, dysentery.


* HMS Shah (RMLI):
Pte. 75 Patrick O'BRINS. 12-Jun, Herwen, enteric.


* HMS Tenedos (RMLI):
Pte. 11/12 William J. LUMAR. 30 or 31-Jan, Fort Tenedos, sunstroke.
Back to top Go down
Petty Officer Tom

Petty Officer Tom


Posts : 365
Join date : 2017-02-05
Location : Texas, U.S.A.

Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Empty
PostSubject: Re: Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines   Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyTue Sep 01, 2020 12:35 am

Catiline63,

That is a good list which you have put together.  I found only one name, "Jack (Jim) Dough, which I would question.  

Jack (Jim) Dough (Krooman, HMS Active) was a native of Sierra Leone.  The Medal Roll shows he was Discharged Dead on 2 March 1879.  Dough’s name was not listed on the HMS Active Memorial at Victoria Park, nor is there an entry on the ship’s Medical Journal (by Staff Surgeon F. Norbury) for him.  

On 2 March 1879 Krooman Jack Dough was not serving ashore with the Naval Brigade from HMS Active which was besieged at Eshowe on that date, nor is he listed among those who died and were buried in the cemetery there.  Dough had served ashore with the Naval Brigade in the 9th Cape Frontier wars (16 December 1877 to 31 March 1878.) for which he was entitled to the South Africa Medal with the “1877-8” clasp.  On the 2nd of March he was either serving aboard HMS Active anchored off of Port Durban, or could have been sent ashore to a hospital at either Durban or Simon’s Bay.  I have not been able to find any Medical Journal kept by Surgeon John B. B. Triggs who was the only Surgeon aboard ship at the time. The only other source would be the ship’s log for HMS Active which is kept at the National Archives in the file ADM 53/11119 which covers the period 23 August 1878 to 25 October 1879.

Tom
Back to top Go down
Catiline63

Catiline63


Posts : 28
Join date : 2019-08-24
Location : Burgess Hill, West Sussex

Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Empty
PostSubject: Re: Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines   Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyTue Sep 01, 2020 11:05 am

Thanks for the advice, Tom. Much appreciated.
I retained Dough because, as he seems to me to be a 'borderline' character - part of the compliment of the Active, although not part of the shore party that made up the Naval Brigade - it would be incomplete not to include him!

Thanks again,
Lee
Back to top Go down
Frank Allewell

Frank Allewell


Posts : 8572
Join date : 2009-09-21
Age : 77
Location : Cape Town South Africa

Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Empty
PostSubject: Re: Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines   Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyWed Sep 02, 2020 4:45 pm

Henry Bingham Wynyard Lieutenant HMS Boadicea
John McCarthy Stoker HMS Boadicea drowned Simonsbay

Couple of headstones I found at Seaforth Burial ground
Back to top Go down
90th

90th


Posts : 10909
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 68
Location : Melbourne, Australia

Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Empty
PostSubject: Non Combat Dths - RN & RM   Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyThu Sep 03, 2020 1:47 am

Hi Frank
I see neither of the two chaps you mentioned are listed on the Medal Roll for HMS Bodicea , must've passed away before or after the AZW ??? , I had a very quick look under Officers and Stokers , Tom will know Salute Salute
90th Very Happy
Back to top Go down
Frank Allewell

Frank Allewell


Posts : 8572
Join date : 2009-09-21
Age : 77
Location : Cape Town South Africa

Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Empty
PostSubject: Re: Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines   Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyThu Sep 03, 2020 6:02 am

Morning Gary
Not a clue Im afraid as to the dates, just two graves I found in the very old Seaforth graveyard in Simonstown.
At the time I was looking for an iSandlwana survivors grave.
Cheers
Back to top Go down
1879graves

1879graves


Posts : 3385
Join date : 2009-03-03
Location : Devon

Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Empty
PostSubject: Re: Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines   Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyThu Sep 03, 2020 10:07 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Western Morning News 14 December 1880

Non Zulu War, happy to be corrected.

Salute
Back to top Go down
http://zuluwar1879.tribalpages.com
1879graves

1879graves


Posts : 3385
Join date : 2009-03-03
Location : Devon

Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Empty
PostSubject: Re: Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines   Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyThu Sep 03, 2020 11:02 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Naval & Military Gazette and Weekly Chronicle of the United Service 15 December 1880

agree
Back to top Go down
http://zuluwar1879.tribalpages.com
Petty Officer Tom

Petty Officer Tom


Posts : 365
Join date : 2017-02-05
Location : Texas, U.S.A.

Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Empty
PostSubject: Re: Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines   Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyThu Sep 03, 2020 1:04 pm

Neither of these men saw service in the Zulu War.

Lieutenant Henry Bingham Chesshyre Wynyard was appointed to HMS Boadicea 7 June 1879 and arrived at Simon’s Bay 7 July where he was put on the sick list of “Boadicea” the next day and sent to the naval hospital at Simon’s Town.  He never saw service aboard ship in Natal or Zululand waters, nor does he show up on the medal roll.  HMS Boadicea had left Durban in June with the body of the Prince Imperial and arrived at Simon’s Bay on the 15th where the Prince’s body was transferred to HMS Orontes.  The “Boadicea” remained thee at Simon’s Bay for the remainder of the war.

Stoker John McCarthy died in 1884.  The crew of “Boadicea” that served in the Zulu War and the 1st Boer War were sent back to England in 1882 aboard HMS Thalia which had brought out their replacements.  There is no Stoker John McCarthy on the medal roll for service in the Zulu War.

Tom.
Back to top Go down
Frank Allewell

Frank Allewell


Posts : 8572
Join date : 2009-09-21
Age : 77
Location : Cape Town South Africa

Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines Empty
PostSubject: Re: Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines   Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines EmptyThu Sep 03, 2020 4:05 pm

There are a number of other graves in the Burial Ground, unfortunatly its a very isolated place and in SA that presents its own problems.
Back to top Go down
 
Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Artillery
» Non-Combat Casualties in Colonial and Native Units
» Officers Of The Royal Marines Battalion 1879

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM  :: THE ONE'S THE HISTORY BOOKS FORGOT-
Jump to: