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| Non-combat casualties in Colonial and Native units. between January and October 1879. Part of a project to collate all of the non-combat deaths suffered during the war and the immediate aftermath. All comments (criticisms, corrections, additions, etc.) would be most welcome.
* 1/2nd Natal Native Contingent: Lt. S.C. ALEXANDER. Dysentery.
* 2/2nd Natal Native Contingent: Lt. John P. GRIFFIS. 20-Jan, Fort Tenedos, dysentery. Lt. Herbert Valentine JAY. 15-May, Fort Pearson, fever. Sgt. J.D. LYONS. 22-Feb, Herwen, dysentery. Cpl. J.W. LYONS. 30-Jan, Herwen, sunstroke.
* 1/3rd Natal Native Contingent: Cpl. (or Sgt.) W.C. Hocking. 21-Mar, Sunday River.
* 2/3rd Natal Native Contingent: Capt. William Thomas GUBBINS. 05-Mar, Ladysmith (or Helpmakaar), fever. Lt. William MURRAY. 25-Mar, Pietermaritzburg, dysentery.
* 1st Natal Native Contingent: Lt. Robert D'OMBRAIN. 08-Apr, Kranzkop, suicide (gunshot).
* 2nd Natal Native Contingent: Capt. Hon. Hugh Rodolph Arbuthnot GOUGH. 19-Apr, Herwen, dysentery.
* Natal Native Contingent (uncertain battalion): Lt. Hon. Sackville Fitzroy Henry LANE-FOX. 28-Aug, Durban, dysentery.
* 1st Wood's Irregulars: Lt. & Adj. James MACMAHON. ca.22-Jul, on march. Pte. SCHAAL. 02-Mar, Van Standen's Farm, fever
* Baker's Horse: TSM Edwin WHITE. 25-Aug, Utrecht. SSM F. MOORE. 29-Jul. Trpr. W. PLOWRIGHT. ca.06-Jun, Durban. Trpr. W.B. THORN. 05-Apr.
* Bettington's Horse: Trpr. John HERRING. 08-Aug, accident (run over by wagon).
* Border Horse: Trpr. William ANDREWS. 23-Apr, Eerstelling, accident (drowning).
* Buffalo Border Guard: Trpr. John William ROBSON. 06-Sep, fever.
* Durban Mounted Rifles: Trpr. Charles DACOMB. Fever.
* Isipingo Mounted Rifles: Trpr. Gustavius Morton GREEN. 02-Jun, Potspruit, accident (fall from horse). Trpr. J.W. MUNN. Herwen.
* Kaffrarian Rifles: Trpr. Theodor SCHMIDT. 04-Apr, Blood River, accident (drowning).
* Local Transport: Mule Driver J. DICK. 30-Jul, Pietermaritzburg. Driver W. ANDREWS. 25-Apr, Utrecht, during surgery.
* Lonsdale's Horse: Trumpeter J. HERMIN. 27-May, Durban, dysentery. Trpr. Alfred PANSEY. 02-Jul, typhoid. Trpr. J. SANTI. 15-May, Fort Pearson, fever.
* Natal Carbineers: Trpr. John Bruce HAY. 04-Mar, Helpmakaar, fever.
* Natal Light Horse: Trpr. J. DAVIS. 20-Aug, Ladysmith.
* Natal Mounted Police: Cpl. William S. CHADDOCK. 06-Apr, Helpmakaar, typhoid. Trpr. John George ADAMS. 02-Jul, Greytown, accident (fall from horse). Trpr. George BENNETT. 28-Mar, Helpmakaar, dysentery & typhoid. Trpr. W. DREIMEIER. Newcastle, murdered. Trpr. William P. HAYES. 20-Mar, Helpmakaar, fever. Trpr. George HUGHES. 13-Oct, Pietermaritzburg. Trpr. Benjamin B. INGRAM. 05-Apr, Helpmakaar, fever. Trpr. Charles T. LAUGHNAN. 07-Mar, Ladysmith, fever. Trpr. Pierce P. NAGLE. 17-Mar, Helpmakaar, fever. Trpr. Herbert S. SMITH. 27-Feb, Helpmakaar, suicide (gunshot).
* Natal Native Horse: Trpr. SHALIE (or THALIE). 23-Mar, Khambula, typhoid.
* Natal Native Stretcher Bearers: Hospital Bearer Atusa GOZLA (or ATUSAGOZLA). 26-Apr, Khambula, dysentery. Hospital Bearer GABADO. 16-Apr, Khambula, dysentery.
* Newcastle Mounted Rifles: Trpr. Arthur Edward DIXON. 12-Jan, Rorke's Drift, accident (drowning).
* Transvaal Rangers: Trpr. J. HARRIS. 15-Mar, Khambula, fever.
* Follower attached to 3/60th King's Royal Rifle Corps: TEGETWAYO. 25/27-Jan, accident (drowning) - Servant to Maj. Francis Grenfell.
* Unknown Corps: Rev. M.S.W. ARLINGTON. 10-Oct, Utrecht. YOUZA. 24-May, Fort Chelmsford, fever.
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| Dixon, NMR drowned on 16th January not the 12th.
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| Thank you Julian,
The 12th comes from the report of Dixon's death in the London Gazette (p.3177), but yes it certainly seem to be an error. Stalker (The Natal Carbineers p.90) doesn't give a date, but seems to place the drowning between the 14th and 19th. Sole (God Queen and Colony) quotes a letter from Trooper Symons mentioning the event, but the extract does not contain a date. WO 100/49.262 and 49.292 are no use - although listing Dixon drowned, no dates are given. Does a source exist for the 16th? Symons' full letter?
Thanks again, Lee |
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| Interesting Avatar Lee, David Hemmings as Captain Nolan in 1968. I was in that movie in a few scenes shot in London. |
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| Catiline63 I'll pm you. Julian |
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| - Frank Allewell wrote:
- Interesting Avatar Lee, David Hemmings as Captain Nolan in 1968. I was in that movie in a few scenes shot in London.
I can only assume it was not for your acting skills but because you already had the trousers...... |
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| Well, well, Frank, I was in a a few shots of a Monty Python sketch! |
| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | Frank Allewell
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| Back in the day my regiment was asked to provide extras in ceremonial dress. Did duties on a couple of occasions in London and again at the premier.Norman Rossington and Trevor Howard were brilliant, Bought the whole honor guard a beer. Couple of years before I drove a tank, the blue one in 'How I won the war' with John Lennon, miserable sod, in Bergen Belsen |
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| I'm also a fan of the plank. The MP sketch was the one at the undertaker's where it's suggested they eat his grandmother instead of burying her (at the end when the National Anthem is played). |
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| White jacket and polo neck? |
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| White jacket doesn't sound like me...I'll have to look... |
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