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PostSubject: G.C.White Day Naval Brigade   G.C.White Day Naval Brigade EmptySun Aug 28, 2022 8:47 pm

Sale room. Opening price £360

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A pair of 19th century medals awarded to G. C. White Day 1st Cl. P. O. Royal Navy:- Ashantee medal with Coomassie bar (HMS Active) and South Africa Zulu medal with 1879 bar (HMS Shah)
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PostSubject: Re: G.C.White Day Naval Brigade   G.C.White Day Naval Brigade EmptySun Aug 28, 2022 9:46 pm

Kate,

An interesting pair of medals.  A photograph of the engraving on medal’s edge would be helpful.  I found a third medal of his that was auctioned 20 September 2002.  “China 1857-60, 1 clasp, Taku Forts 1860 (G. C. White Day, Boy 1 Cl., H.M.S. Centaur)”

I have not been able to find a Royal Navy service record for this man.  His name does not appear on the medal roll of HMS Shah for the South Africa Medal, nor does his name appear on the medal roll of HMS Active for the Ashantee Medal.

This one will definitely take some more investigating.

Tom
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PostSubject: Re: G.C.White Day Naval Brigade   G.C.White Day Naval Brigade EmptyMon Aug 29, 2022 5:47 am

Hi Tom
Unfortunatly there is no photograph of the edge of medals just front and back.
I will see what else I can find out
Kate
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PostSubject: Re: G.C.White Day Naval Brigade   G.C.White Day Naval Brigade EmptyMon Aug 29, 2022 1:29 pm

One thing I failed to mention regarding his China medal is that the description of the medal showed that it was "renamed."  I would like to know if that is the case with the Ashantee and South Africa medals.

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PostSubject: G.C.White Day Naval Brigade    G.C.White Day Naval Brigade EmptyMon Aug 29, 2022 2:04 pm

Hi Kate
I sent the Saleroom link to P.O.Tom a couple of days ago , I've since asked the Auction house for pics of the Engraving , so far ...Crickets ! hahahaha .
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PostSubject: Re: G.C.White Day Naval Brigade   G.C.White Day Naval Brigade EmptyWed Aug 31, 2022 4:06 pm

90th got in touch with the auction house and they sent him these photos of the edges showing the inscriptiions

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This from Petty Officer Tom in response to seeing the photos
The South Africa Medal to HMS Shah is not engraved in the style of the medals issued in 1880 and 1881.  Below is the engraving style for "Shah".

”SHAH” W.J. ARSCOTT A.B.  H·M·S

If this is not a fake medal it would have to be a duplicate issued at a later date.
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PostSubject: Re: G.C.White Day Naval Brigade   G.C.White Day Naval Brigade EmptyWed Aug 31, 2022 8:54 pm

Kate,

Forum member Justin of Jager Medals has had a look at the photos and says "They are both 100% renamed"

Tom

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PostSubject: Re: G.C.White Day Naval Brigade   G.C.White Day Naval Brigade EmptyWed Aug 31, 2022 10:19 pm

Smashing thanks Tom Salute
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PostSubject: Re: G.C.White Day Naval Brigade   G.C.White Day Naval Brigade EmptySun Sep 04, 2022 9:47 pm

Today I checked on the pair of medals to G.C. White Day.  The site that was selling them has withdrawn the lot from the auction.

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PostSubject: G.C.White Day Naval Brigade    G.C.White Day Naval Brigade EmptyMon Sep 05, 2022 6:14 am

Interesting Tom , they may've copped some flak over them ? Salute
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