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PostSubject: W. Pack 90th Regiment , Bullers servant J Pegg , G Burge , T Atkins , J Merryweather , T Morton , T Emery , E Smith 1/13th Regiment 1878 action   W. Pack 90th Regiment , Bullers servant J Pegg , G Burge , T Atkins , J Merryweather , T Morton , T Emery , E Smith 1/13th Regiment 1878 action EmptyFri Feb 03, 2023 4:23 pm

Natal Witness 12th November 1878
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Seems some recovered to fight inthe AZW and some didn't.
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90th Regiment
Private number not known Pack W. 1877-78-79 clasp

1/13th Regiment
Sergeant number not shown Pegg J. 1878 clasp no other details. He had his leg amputated but died at 6am, 28th October 1878 (Natal Witness 16th November 1878)
Bugler 36/100 Burge G. 1878-79 clasp
Private 382 Atkinson T. No clasp (this could be the man above but one would assume he would have the 1878 clasp. There is no Atkins shown in any rank.)
Private 1956 Merryweather J. 1878 clasp
Private 941 Morton T. 1878-79 clasp
Private 1637 Emery T. 1878 -79 clasp
Sergeant 1972 Smith E. 1878-79 clasp (there is no private E. Smith in the rolls)

Details of Pegg's death
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PostSubject: Re: W. Pack 90th Regiment , Bullers servant J Pegg , G Burge , T Atkins , J Merryweather , T Morton , T Emery , E Smith 1/13th Regiment 1878 action   W. Pack 90th Regiment , Bullers servant J Pegg , G Burge , T Atkins , J Merryweather , T Morton , T Emery , E Smith 1/13th Regiment 1878 action EmptySat Feb 04, 2023 11:19 pm

Interestingly, Pte. Edward D. McToy in his work on the 1st/13th P.A.L.I. lists the following:
60th Rifles - Pack, W. - Wounded 29/10/78, died from effects.

There are some further variations in his casualty return relating this action.

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That is interesting John, can't find a W. Pack in the 3/60th rolls scratch
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Kate,

Given that the 3rd Battalion, 60th Rifles were still in the U.K., you might be considering the wrong battalion. He could be an odd man from any of the four battalions of the 60th.

Assuming Pack was indeed from the 60th he might have a soldier-servant to a 60th officer serving in the Transvaal in 1878, someone such as Buller.

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Hi John
Was aware the 3/60th wasn't there but he still may have been 3/60th but just on secondment to SA say as Buller's servant.

Think I've cracked it though. Check this out
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Kate,

Which all seems to confirm my assumption.

I imagine the reason McToy includes Pack in his casualty return was that Pack was being carried on the books of the 1st/13th P.A.L.I.

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Hi JY
If our man Pack was on the books of the 1/13th would that also mean he was on their Roll ? , I checked the 1/13th Rolls no mention of him.
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Gary,

No it would only have been pay & muster purposes as attached personnel, in whichever battalion of the 60th was his parent unit there should have been an entry showing him as detached.

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