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PostSubject: Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot    Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot  EmptyFri Nov 24, 2023 11:22 pm

Hello everyone,

I recently purchased a SA campaign medal with 1878-1879 clasp awarded to Private J. McCrudden of the 1/13th Foot. I was wondering if anyone on the forum has access to a rare publication entitled "The 1/13th Regiment in South Africa 1874-1879" by a J.C. Kenworthy. The text is supposed to contain some biographical information on the men of the battalion. Any info about McCrudden found in the text would be much appreciated.

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PostSubject: Private J. McCrudden 1/13th    Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot  EmptySat Nov 25, 2023 12:50 am

Hi General Greene
Can we extend this to Private Bellamy also from the 1/13th Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot    Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot  EmptySat Nov 25, 2023 12:58 am

Absolutely Gary!
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PostSubject: Private J. McCrudden 1/13th    Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot  EmptySat Nov 25, 2023 1:01 am

Cheers Nathan Salute
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PostSubject: Re: Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot    Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot  EmptySat Nov 25, 2023 12:48 pm

There a copy of Collis Kenworthy’s book on EBay, at a price way beyond my pension.

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PostSubject: Re: Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot    Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot  EmptyMon Nov 27, 2023 4:42 pm

Can't see the Ebay one, but maybe AbeBooks is cheaper at £670?

I am thinking of visiting TNA at Kew on Saturday, (strike dependent) they have a copy there. Will take some photos if I can.
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PostSubject: Re: Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot    Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot  EmptyMon Nov 27, 2023 4:52 pm

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256141352214

£687.50 plus postage & packing.

Same price and seller on Abebooks.

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PostSubject: Re: Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot    Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot  EmptySat Dec 02, 2023 6:44 pm

36B/222 Pte. John McCrudden born Belfast circa 1955.
Enlisted 18/08/1874 aged 19 at Belfast. Not married, no record of trade.
To Army Reserve 19/08/1880 at Devonport.
Clasp 1878-9 Sekhukhune and Zulu campaigns issued 17/09/1881
No record of discharge probably 17/08/1886 no record of character but had one Good Conduct badge. All service as Pte.
Intended address Belfast. No pension.
(There is also Francis McCrudden 36B/499)
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PostSubject: Re: Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot    Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot  EmptySat Dec 02, 2023 6:52 pm

36B/113 Pte. William Bellamy born Somerset circa 1856 no record of place.
Enlisted 15/06/1874 at Taunton trade not known, not married.
Purchased discharge 15/01/1880 at Devonport, no pension, no record of intended address no record of character but two Good Conduct badges.
Clasp 1878-9 for Sekhukhune and Zulu campaigns. No trace of issue.
Slightly wounded in abdomen at Khambula.
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PostSubject: Private J. McCrudden 1/13th    Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot  EmptySun Dec 03, 2023 4:19 am

Cheers Bill8183
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PostSubject: Re: Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot    Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot  EmptyTue Dec 05, 2023 8:52 am

A Brief History of the 13th Regiment, P.A.L.I., in South Africa, During the Transvaal and Zulu Difficulties
https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=FbkoAAAAYAAJ&pg=GBS.PP8
This book may be of interest. It is a free download on Google Books....no index so could not check the name. Will look for further info.
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PostSubject: Private J. McCrudden 1/13th    Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot  EmptyTue Dec 19, 2023 5:09 am

Cheers briannorris@sos.co.za
I do have the 1/13th book you mentioned .
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PostSubject: Re: Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot    Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot  EmptySun Feb 04, 2024 11:04 am

I was wondering if the 'r' in his surname was a typo, if so, then his name would be McCudden, and could he possibly be related to the famous WW1 fighter pilot (flying ace), Major James McCudden V.C., who had 57 aerial victories, 52 of them whilst flying the Royal Aircraft Factory SE5a, one of the best British aircraft of WW1.
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PostSubject: Private J. McCrudden 1/13th    Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot  EmptySat Feb 10, 2024 10:45 am

Hi All
Just checking the posts since I've got back home , after Martin's comment I checked the Forsyth Medal Roll and there were 2 MCCrudden's in the 1/13th , F. McCrudden 36/499 Medal with Clasp 1878-79 and J. McCrudden 36/422 Medal with Clasp 1878-79 .
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PostSubject: Re: Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot    Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot  EmptySat Feb 10, 2024 1:49 pm

Bill8183 wrote:
36B/222 Pte. John McCrudden born Belfast circa 1955.
Enlisted 18/08/1874 aged 19 at Belfast. Not married, no record of trade.
To Army Reserve 19/08/1880 at Devonport.
Clasp 1878-9 Sekhukhune and Zulu campaigns issued 17/09/1881
No record of discharge probably 17/08/1886 no record of character but had one Good Conduct badge. All service as Pte.
Intended address Belfast. No pension.
(There is also Francis McCrudden 36B/499)

Bill, thank you very much for looking up the info in the book! My apologies that it has taken me this long to respond but I very much appreciate your contribution.

Best,
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PostSubject: Re: Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot    Private J. McCrudden 1/13 Foot  EmptySat Feb 10, 2024 1:52 pm

Gary, maybe F and J McCrudden are siblings or cousins. Glad you are home safe!

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Hi Nathan , yes I thought that may well have been a possibility as well . Salute
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