Lieutenant John Chard: What's our strength? Lieutenant Gonville Bromhead: Seven officers including surgeon, commissaries and so on; Adendorff now I suppose; wounded and sick 36, fit for duty 97 and about 40 native levies. Not much of an army for you.
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1) Isandlwana is in the Background. And there’s a wagon or something on the road but can’t tell if its coming towards us or going towards Isandlwana.
2) Rorkes Drift many years after the war.
3) And Rorkes Drift again, what looks like during the Battle.
90th
Posts : 10621 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 66 Location : Melbourne, Australia
Subject: 3 mystery photos. Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:20 am
hi all. I"ll have a stab . 1/ Road from RD to Isandlwana . 2/ eshowe ? 3/ R.Drift. cheers 90th.
Frank Allewell
Posts : 8374 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 75 Location : Cape Town South Africa
Subject: Re: 3 mystery photo's Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:39 am
24th Thats actually a gun carriage on the road, interesting shot.
Neil Aspinshaw
Posts : 553 Join date : 2009-10-14 Location : Loughborough
Subject: Re: 3 mystery photo's Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:57 am
The View to Isandlwana is an intersting one, it appears not to be the course of the modern road from RD as the view of the saddle is to the left of the image, today, the road tends to be to the right of the view and from the crossing part of the Baatshe stream Isandwana is hidded in the curvature of the edge of the Nyoni ridge. I have looked at most of the photographs I have and I cannot seem to replicate this viewpoint on any of them.
Of course in 1879, the original track was a half mile downstream of the modern road but I do not know its course from there.
The wagon looks low loaded with whattle or suger cane.
Ken Gillings
Posts : 205 Join date : 2009-10-20 Age : 75 Location : Pinetown, KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa
Subject: Re: 3 mystery photo's Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:22 am
Here goes my reputation: 1. The original traders' track from the area of Masojeni towards Isandlwana, but the gun seems to be a 15-pr so the photo could have been taken during the 1906 Poll Tax (Bhambatha) Rebellion so it would belong to the Natal Field Artillery - possibly during Lt Col DW MacKay's advance into Zululand. 2. Fort kwaMondi. 3. Rorke's Drift. Apologies in advance if I'm wrong!
joe
Posts : 600 Join date : 2010-01-07 Location : UK
Subject: Re: 3 mystery photo's Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:04 am
hi here we go then-cant be right if you dont try! 1-road to isandlwana form rorkes drift 2-rorkes drift when the church was built, years after the battle 3-intombi drift? (just a stab in the dark)
joe
ADMIN
Posts : 4310 Join date : 2008-11-01 Age : 63 Location : KENT
Subject: Re: 3 mystery photo's Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:01 am
Answers to mystery photo's
(1) Gun carriage on the old road to Isandlwana. Believed to be 1879 (2) Fort at Eshowe. (3) Old illustration of the hospital burning at RD,
90th 3 out of 3.
Frank Allewell
Posts : 8374 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 75 Location : Cape Town South Africa
Subject: Re: 3 mystery photo's Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:13 am
Well done chaps 90th, yet again to good for me. Neil. Its the old traders road from RD. This phot could be very helpful in finding the old road route. Ken. Although this photo is listed as 1879 I believe your correct in the description of the gun as a 15lb and of it being the Natal Field Artillery. That would then date it as 1906.
Ken Gillings
Posts : 205 Join date : 2009-10-20 Age : 75 Location : Pinetown, KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa
Subject: Re: 3 mystery photo's Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:38 pm
Phew; 3/3 (bearing in mind, of course, that Eshowe was known as Fort kwaMondi in 1879!). Named after the Rev Ommond Oftebro, who operated the mission - the Zulus couldn't get their tongues around 'Ommund', so called it kwaMondi. Regarding the photo of the gun, the NFA was presented with a battery of 15-pr 7-cwt guns after the Anglo-Boer War early in 1903. Four gun batteries were introduced, which meant that instead of having a left, right and centre section, there were only two sections - left and right. Ken
John
Posts : 2558 Join date : 2009-04-06 Age : 60 Location : UK
Subject: Re: 3 mystery photo's Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:54 pm
Quote :
Eshowe was known as Fort kwaMondi in 1879!
Thanks for that information Ken. Didn't know that.
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