WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM

Lord Chelmsford Said .Buller is ‘one of the finest soldiers of the century’, so modest and reticent –that it was difficult to say for what individual deed he had got the Victoria Cross as he had been doing acts worthy of it all along the line
 
HomeHome  GalleryGallery  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
» One of the lesser-known stories. It took place around the same time as Isandlwana.
telescopic sights EmptyYesterday at 8:29 pm by John Young

» NNC Officer List
telescopic sights EmptySat Jul 04, 2020 4:40 pm by Ells

» N Batt 5th Bde RA
telescopic sights EmptySat Jul 04, 2020 11:52 am by Rory Reynolds

» S.SMITH Buffalo Border Guard
telescopic sights EmptyFri Jul 03, 2020 2:43 pm by Brett Hendey

» Questions of Time and Place at Isandlwana
telescopic sights EmptyFri Jul 03, 2020 12:38 pm by Frank Allewell

» Question Regarding the Uniforms of the Officers of the 24th at Isandlwana
telescopic sights EmptyFri Jul 03, 2020 6:06 am by SRB1965

» Malicious malware on this site
telescopic sights EmptyThu Jul 02, 2020 10:26 pm by intombe

» Zulu Victory - Views?
telescopic sights EmptyThu Jul 02, 2020 6:52 pm by WeekendWarrior

» Isandlwana Survivor photo's
telescopic sights EmptyThu Jul 02, 2020 3:56 pm by Julian Whybra

» Anyone got information on this.
telescopic sights EmptyThu Jul 02, 2020 3:55 pm by Julian Whybra

» Captn. H. G. Bowen, 88th Foot
telescopic sights EmptyThu Jul 02, 2020 1:18 pm by gstew88

» The South Africa Medal to HMS Forester - an anomaly?
telescopic sights EmptyWed Jul 01, 2020 7:41 pm by Petty Officer Tom

» Lieut. R. F. Dixon NMR
telescopic sights EmptyWed Jul 01, 2020 5:01 am by 90th

» Next month's DNW medal auction
telescopic sights EmptyTue Jun 30, 2020 6:45 am by 90th

» Zulu war medals on eBay
telescopic sights EmptyMon Jun 29, 2020 5:14 pm by SergioD

» John Basten
telescopic sights EmptySun Jun 28, 2020 1:20 pm by Petty Officer Tom

» Lieutenant Walter Robert Higginson NNC
telescopic sights EmptySun Jun 28, 2020 11:19 am by ciroferrara

» Letter home from Eshowe
telescopic sights EmptyThu Jun 25, 2020 2:24 pm by Blackcat

» Melvill's Revolver Cylinder
telescopic sights EmptyThu Jun 25, 2020 10:05 am by Drummer Boy 14

» Assistant Commissary W. Winspear Commissariat Department, present at Gingindlovu
telescopic sights EmptyMon Jun 22, 2020 12:05 pm by ADMIN

» Orders to laager at Isandhlwana
telescopic sights EmptySun Jun 21, 2020 7:11 pm by SRB1965

» morale and the siege at Eshowe
telescopic sights EmptyFri Jun 19, 2020 9:58 am by Blackcat

» CUNNINGHAM
telescopic sights EmptyFri Jun 19, 2020 8:43 am by Julian Whybra

» ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS
telescopic sights EmptySat Jun 13, 2020 6:21 am by 90th

» Diamond Fields Horse in Zululand
telescopic sights EmptyFri Jun 12, 2020 3:01 pm by Rory Reynolds

» Crimes back in England
telescopic sights EmptyThu Jun 11, 2020 3:44 pm by Catiline63

» Brevet Major. Henry Spalding of Rorke's Drift and Information for Columns
telescopic sights EmptySat Jun 06, 2020 12:14 pm by Frank Allewell

» Missing Cairns?
telescopic sights EmptySat Jun 06, 2020 4:04 am by WeekendWarrior

» RE: William Jenkins Goodson
telescopic sights EmptyThu Jun 04, 2020 8:09 pm by John Young

» A note on O/6 Battery, Royal Artillery.
telescopic sights EmptySun May 31, 2020 4:09 pm by lydenburg

» Corps of Drums
telescopic sights EmptySun May 31, 2020 10:10 am by John Young

» 2nd Lieutenant Henry Wilson Lovett, 1st/13th
telescopic sights EmptySat May 30, 2020 11:48 am by John Young

» Philip Bowe 2658/7 Gatling Field Battery 10/7 Brigade Major Owens
telescopic sights EmptyFri May 29, 2020 7:28 pm by Doranking

» Lieutenant O'Connell, 60th Rifles. 1880 Isandlwana map.
telescopic sights EmptyTue May 26, 2020 4:32 pm by Frank Allewell

» More From FindaGrave website
telescopic sights EmptyTue May 26, 2020 8:09 am by rai

Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
Rorke's Drift A Soldier's Story with presenter Major John Thomas
Top posters
90th
telescopic sights Bar_lefttelescopic sights Bartelescopic sights Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
telescopic sights Bar_lefttelescopic sights Bartelescopic sights Bar_right 
littlehand
telescopic sights Bar_lefttelescopic sights Bartelescopic sights Bar_right 
ADMIN
telescopic sights Bar_lefttelescopic sights Bartelescopic sights Bar_right 
1879graves
telescopic sights Bar_lefttelescopic sights Bartelescopic sights Bar_right 
rusteze
telescopic sights Bar_lefttelescopic sights Bartelescopic sights Bar_right 
Chelmsfordthescapegoat
telescopic sights Bar_lefttelescopic sights Bartelescopic sights Bar_right 
John
telescopic sights Bar_lefttelescopic sights Bartelescopic sights Bar_right 
Mr M. Cooper
telescopic sights Bar_lefttelescopic sights Bartelescopic sights Bar_right 
Julian Whybra
telescopic sights Bar_lefttelescopic sights Bartelescopic sights Bar_right 
Top posting users this month
Julian Whybra
telescopic sights Bar_lefttelescopic sights Bartelescopic sights Bar_right 
WeekendWarrior
telescopic sights Bar_lefttelescopic sights Bartelescopic sights Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
telescopic sights Bar_lefttelescopic sights Bartelescopic sights Bar_right 
Rory Reynolds
telescopic sights Bar_lefttelescopic sights Bartelescopic sights Bar_right 
John Young
telescopic sights Bar_lefttelescopic sights Bartelescopic sights Bar_right 
Brett Hendey
telescopic sights Bar_lefttelescopic sights Bartelescopic sights Bar_right 
Petty Officer Tom
telescopic sights Bar_lefttelescopic sights Bartelescopic sights Bar_right 
robgdad
telescopic sights Bar_lefttelescopic sights Bartelescopic sights Bar_right 
SRB1965
telescopic sights Bar_lefttelescopic sights Bartelescopic sights Bar_right 
briannorris@sos.co.za
telescopic sights Bar_lefttelescopic sights Bartelescopic sights Bar_right 
Most active topics
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Durnford was he capable.1
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Durnford was he capable. 4
Durnford was he capable.5
The ammunition question
Durnford was he capable.2
Durnford was he capable. 3
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Most Viewed Topics
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Adding to the Library
Isandlwana, Last Stands
The ammunition question
Recent Members To The ZULU WAR 1879 Discussion & Reference Forum ( A Small Victorian War in 1879)
ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS
Durnford was he capable.5
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Lieutenant Adendorff 1-3 N.N.C.
Fair Use Notice
Fair use notice. This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner. We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website. If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution.

 

 telescopic sights

Go down 
AuthorMessage
Mr Greaves

Mr Greaves

Posts : 748
Join date : 2009-10-18

telescopic sights Empty
PostSubject: telescopic sights   telescopic sights EmptyTue Mar 09, 2010 8:43 pm

The first experiments directed to give shooters optical aiming aids go back to the early 17th century. For centuries different optical aiming aids and primitive predecessors of telescopic sights were created that had practical or performance limitations. Are there any accounts of these type of sights being used by any of the forces during the Zulu War.
Back to top Go down
littlehand

littlehand

Posts : 7086
Join date : 2009-04-24
Age : 51
Location : Down South.

telescopic sights Empty
PostSubject: Re: telescopic sights   telescopic sights EmptyTue Mar 09, 2010 9:02 pm

Mr G. can’t find anything of scopes being used during the Zulu War, but came across this. It’s some sort of periscope, There seems to be a rifle attached not really sure what’s going on and what supposed to happen.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Back to top Go down
rai



Posts : 200
Join date : 2009-10-16

telescopic sights Empty
PostSubject: Re: telescopic sights   telescopic sights EmptyTue Mar 09, 2010 9:53 pm

Hi all
The picture show's a sniper or crack shot in the first world war trenches, probably on the Gallipoli front, iam sure this periscope and fixed rifle idea is shown in the film Gallipoli.
Scoped rifles were used at military shooting contests in the 1870's 1890's there are illustrations in the Illustrated London News showing this.
Rai
Keynshamlighthorse
Back to top Go down
ciscokid



Posts : 187
Join date : 2010-02-04

telescopic sights Empty
PostSubject: Re: telescopic sights   telescopic sights EmptyTue Mar 09, 2010 10:26 pm

I'm sure from memory I've seen a picture of someone with a scope in the American Civil War...
Back to top Go down
John

John

Posts : 2558
Join date : 2009-04-06
Age : 57
Location : UK

telescopic sights Empty
PostSubject: Re: telescopic sights   telescopic sights EmptyTue Mar 09, 2010 11:47 pm

Early scope type used during the American Civil War.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Back to top Go down
90th

90th

Posts : 10077
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 64
Location : Melbourne, Australia

telescopic sights Empty
PostSubject: telescopic sights   telescopic sights EmptyWed Mar 10, 2010 1:21 am

hi all.
The picture littlehand has posted was taken at Gallipoli and as far as I am aware they are Australian Troops
who were credited with that periscopic invention. Rai, I am fairly certain that photo was certainly put into the
movie Gallipoli which featured a very young Mel Gibson , who I must say hasnt aged very gracefully :lol!:
I have never found any mention of scope sights or snipers in the zulu war.
cheers 90th.
Back to top Go down
Neil Aspinshaw

Neil Aspinshaw

Posts : 552
Join date : 2009-10-14
Location : Loughborough

telescopic sights Empty
PostSubject: Re: telescopic sights   telescopic sights EmptyWed Mar 10, 2010 12:07 pm

There was no particular telescopic sight available for service rifles of the Anglo Zulu War.

In 1883 the RSAF began to experiment with three options and one "adaptation" on the sighing of the Martini Henry at ranges beyond 1000 yards, indeed since the MK3 rifles inception in 1879 accurizing shooting at ranges beyond 500 were being addressed.

In the Mk3 the sight ladder bed was set offset to give the raised sight ladder a 5 degree cant, this allowed for the natural bullet deflection curve as an effect of the rifling causing spin, similar to a footballer curving a ball from a free kick.

Option #1 took the form of a tubular brass telescope, mounted on the left hand side of the action, it had to be set at a 30 degree angle as the bullet trajectory at range was over twelve feet, it was trialled but found innefective.

Option #2 A swivelling graduated ruler, pivotted on a specially adapted bayonet band, a small folding sight was brazed to the side of the reciever which meant the firer was looking at point of aim, but the rifle was raised to allow for trajectory, as in the tubular telescope.

Option #3, which was a C1888 idea was from mr Speed, superintendent of the RSAF, he designed a "dial" sight on the forend, and a raisable peep sight on the axis knuckle, whilst being ineffective on the Martini, it was not far out, and became standard issue on the Magazine Lee metford and Lee Enfield.

The adaptation was to knock the cotter pin holding the bayonet band out a touch, and using the sight bed and the pin end gave a natural trajectory whilst looking down the line of sight.

All these prototypes becme redundant with the adoption of Cordite, as the trajectory began to flatten out with the 800 fps increase in bullet speed it afforded.
Back to top Go down
http://www.martinihenry.org
Sponsored content




telescopic sights Empty
PostSubject: Re: telescopic sights   telescopic sights Empty

Back to top Go down
 
telescopic sights
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM  :: GENERAL DISCUSSION AREA-
Jump to: