WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM

Zulu Dawn:“Excuse me, my Lord, there's something I must convey to you. I rode along the track down to Rorke's Drift. The sky above is red with fire. Your orders my Lord? Do we move to the drift?”
 
HomeHome  GalleryGallery  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
» Captain Barry and his Picquet at Mkwene
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyYesterday at 11:17 pm by Chelmsfordthescapegoat

» Display fixings
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyYesterday at 10:26 pm by Chelmsfordthescapegoat

» I am a happy boy!
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyTue Sep 21, 2021 9:13 pm by ADMIN

» Best Zulu wars documentary full.
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyMon Sep 20, 2021 8:06 am by gardner1879

» Bt. Major. Harvey, C.L. 71st L.I.
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyFri Sep 17, 2021 7:28 pm by John Young

» 2nd Lieutenant Thomas Leigh Hare, 24th
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyThu Sep 16, 2021 6:16 am by 90th

» FIND-A-GRAVE WEBSITE
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyWed Sep 15, 2021 8:02 am by rai

» 2nd Lieutenant Thomas Leigh Hare, 24th - Sword
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyTue Sep 14, 2021 4:59 pm by Brin

» Henry William Longcast, Interpreter.
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyMon Sep 13, 2021 8:35 pm by Trev

» Zulu Dinner Event 30th October
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyMon Sep 13, 2021 11:48 am by Julian Whybra

» Matabele Wars
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyMon Sep 13, 2021 7:57 am by Frank Allewell

» Alexandra Mounted Rifles, full biographical details
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptySat Sep 11, 2021 8:38 am by bazley@mweb.co.za

» Rorke's Drift defenders.
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyThu Sep 09, 2021 11:10 pm by Spudee

» Murray Charles Wyndham C.B
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyWed Sep 08, 2021 6:49 am by Frank Allewell

» New Member - Old Questions?
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyTue Sep 07, 2021 11:20 pm by altfritz

» Brevet Major. Henry Spalding of Rorke's Drift and Information for Columns
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyMon Sep 06, 2021 7:17 pm by 1879graves

» Lt. of Orderlies A. Hall AHC KIA Isandlwana
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptySun Sep 05, 2021 11:22 pm by ADMIN

» Who had a rifle?
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptySun Sep 05, 2021 3:49 pm by gardner1879

» Essential Research
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyFri Sep 03, 2021 3:52 pm by Danny1960

» 1:72 Diorama of Ulundi
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyThu Sep 02, 2021 6:11 pm by philzrx

» Your favourite line from Zulu or Zulu Dawn
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyThu Sep 02, 2021 3:58 pm by philzrx

» Best book(s) regarding British military handguns circa AZW
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyWed Sep 01, 2021 8:30 pm by Stand to

» Stolen Medals
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyTue Aug 31, 2021 8:23 am by ADMIN

» 25B/2164 Pte Nolan Michael, Richard or Robert?
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyMon Aug 30, 2021 10:34 pm by Bill8183

» 2077 Gunner Arthur Howard. R.A.
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyMon Aug 30, 2021 8:49 am by ADMIN

» "Ex-Sergeant Major Craven" - a Curio.
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptySun Aug 29, 2021 9:06 pm by ADMIN

» Chard/Bromhead revolvers
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptySat Aug 28, 2021 1:06 pm by free1954

» martini - henry
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptySat Aug 28, 2021 8:40 am by Peter35

» Company Sergeant Major F. W. Peake, Royal Engineers
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptySat Aug 28, 2021 12:58 am by ADMIN

» Trump. J.Best. Lonsdale's Horse
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyFri Aug 27, 2021 11:23 am by ADMIN

» Off Topic Photograph Quiz
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyWed Aug 25, 2021 9:17 am by 24th

» Shenanigans in the Mess
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyWed Aug 25, 2021 5:35 am by WeekendWarrior

» Zulu War to Boer war. Those who served in both.
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyTue Aug 24, 2021 9:51 pm by gardner1879

» LONGHURST, SEAWARD 1st Dragoon Guards.
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptySun Aug 22, 2021 10:40 pm by ADMIN

» Isandhlwana: Fate of Godwin Austin and Pope
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptySun Aug 22, 2021 9:35 am by Julian Whybra

Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
The Anglo-Zulu war: Walking the battlefield of Ulundi
Top posters
90th
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_leftLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  BarLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_leftLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  BarLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_right 
littlehand
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_leftLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  BarLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_right 
ADMIN
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_leftLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  BarLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_right 
1879graves
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_leftLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  BarLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_right 
rusteze
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_leftLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  BarLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_right 
Chelmsfordthescapegoat
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_leftLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  BarLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_right 
John
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_leftLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  BarLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_right 
Mr M. Cooper
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_leftLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  BarLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_right 
Julian Whybra
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_leftLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  BarLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_right 
Top posting users this month
Frank Allewell
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_leftLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  BarLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_right 
gardner1879
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_leftLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  BarLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_right 
aussie inkosi
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_leftLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  BarLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_right 
WeekendWarrior
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_leftLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  BarLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_right 
John Young
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_leftLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  BarLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_right 
ADMIN
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_leftLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  BarLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_right 
90th
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_leftLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  BarLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_right 
1879graves
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_leftLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  BarLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_right 
peter@zuluwars
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_leftLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  BarLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_right 
Chelmsfordthescapegoat
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_leftLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  BarLord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Bar_right 
Most active topics
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Durnford was he capable.1
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Durnford was he capable.5
Durnford was he capable. 4
The ammunition question
Durnford was he capable. 3
Durnford was he capable.2
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Most Viewed Topics
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Adding to the Library
The ammunition question
ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS
Recent Members To The ZULU WAR 1879 Discussion & Reference Forum ( A Small Victorian War in 1879)
Durnford was he capable.5
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Lieutenant Adendorff 1-3 N.N.C.
Fair Use Notice
Fair use notice. This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner. We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website. If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution.
Keywords
spalding Police Durnford George payne james taylor zulu Isandlwana Franklin john 24th Woolfryes Prince henry smith carbineers Mounted horse harford williams Russell martini Natal drift melvill
 

 Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.

Go down 
+2
90th
Chard1879
6 posters
AuthorMessage
Chard1879

Chard1879

Posts : 1261
Join date : 2010-04-12

Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Empty
PostSubject: Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.    Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptySat Aug 28, 2010 9:27 pm


"My only fear is that the Zulu will not fight"

Why was this, was it because all the preparations for war and been instigated, It just seems an odd statement to make before going to war.

What would the out-come if his fear had come true...
Back to top Go down
90th

90th

Posts : 10330
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 65
Location : Melbourne, Australia

Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Empty
PostSubject: chelsford quote   Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptySat Aug 28, 2010 10:34 pm

hi Chard1879.
The Good Lord's quote came from his experiances when fighting the other tribes in africa , whereas he found it difficult
to have a full on battle with them as they tended more often to use Guerilla tactics of hit and run . He wanted to confront the zulu in
a pitched battle hoping that would stop them and they would disband and leave the british in peace . His other pearler was something along the lines of ' I dont think they will be much use after they have faced the M.H in battle ' . Not sure of the exact
wording but sure someone will come across it. I will look for it if it hasnt been posted when I get home from work .
cheers 90th.
Back to top Go down
Chard1879

Chard1879

Posts : 1261
Join date : 2010-04-12

Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.    Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptySat Aug 28, 2010 10:46 pm

Thanks 90th. I do recall reading somewhere, that the Zulu shouted during one battle "Fight us in the open" I take they meant not behind laggers.

Back to top Go down
90th

90th

Posts : 10330
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 65
Location : Melbourne, Australia

Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Empty
PostSubject: chelmsford quote    Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptySun Aug 29, 2010 7:34 am

hi Chard1879.
Had a quick look for the wording to C' fords other quote but cant find it Suspect . The ' Fight us in the open ' meant exactly
that . Come out from behind your entrenchments and fight.
cheers 90th.
Back to top Go down
ciscokid



Posts : 187
Join date : 2010-02-04

Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.    Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyMon Aug 30, 2010 8:20 pm

Chard1879 wrote:
Thanks 90th. I do recall reading somewhere, that the Zulu shouted during one battle "Fight us in the open" I take they meant not behind laggers.


Hi Chard

If you can remember where you saw this, I would love to know.

thank you
Back to top Go down
littlehand

littlehand

Posts : 7077
Join date : 2009-04-24
Age : 53
Location : Down South.

Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.    Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyMon Aug 30, 2010 8:28 pm

Cisco. Scroll to last post.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

I think the title of the book was taken from one of the Battles. Where the Zulu's were shouting "Fight us in the open" I will have a look for the battle where this took place and post. If anyone else knows, please post.
Back to top Go down
Chard1879

Chard1879

Posts : 1261
Join date : 2010-04-12

Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.    Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyMon Aug 30, 2010 8:52 pm

I have heard of this. "Fight us in the open"

Here's another one.

"The inGobamakhosi taunted the retreating British. 'Don't run away, Johnnie, we want to speak to you,' they jeered, boasting, 'We're the boys from Isandlwana!' The horsemen rode hell-for-leather back to the laager, except for the Natal Native Horse, which rode off to the west--perhaps the bitter lessons they had learned at Isandlwana had made them contemptuous of the British method of fighting"

Source: We're the Boys from Isandlwana!
By John Young.
Back to top Go down
Frank Allewell

Frank Allewell

Posts : 7841
Join date : 2009-09-21
Age : 74
Location : Cape Town South Africa

Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.    Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyTue Aug 31, 2010 9:35 am

Fight us in the open.
its a pamphlet written by Prof Laband, published by national monuments commision. In it he quotes Cetshwayo; " If you come near to the white man and find that he has made trenches and built forts that are full of holes, do not attack him, for it will be of no use. But if you see him out in the open you can attach him because you will be able to eat him up."
Cornelius Vijn recalls; " The general remark of the Zulus was, 'Why could not the whites fight with us in the open? But if they are too much afraid to do this, we have never fought with men who were so much afraid of death as these. They are continually making holes in the ground and mounds left open with little holes to shoot through. The English burrow in the ground like pigs. The Boers are of more worth, who dare to come at once into the open field."

I cant get to it at present but there were quotes attributed to Chelmsford saying in responce to a comment that they build a fort on the White Mfolozi and wait for the Zulu to attack that he had to beat them in the open for the Zulu to acknowledge defeat.
Back to top Go down
Frank Allewell

Frank Allewell

Posts : 7841
Join date : 2009-09-21
Age : 74
Location : Cape Town South Africa

Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.    Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyMon Sep 13, 2010 10:58 am

After lots of searching I found this.
'The only thing Im afraid of is I wont be able to get Cetswayo to fight.' That came in a conversation with John Dunn on tactics.

Regards
Back to top Go down
Chelmsfordthescapegoat

Chelmsfordthescapegoat

Posts : 2584
Join date : 2009-04-24

Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.    Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.  EmptyMon Sep 13, 2010 9:11 pm

Quote :
They are continually making holes in the ground and mounds left open with little holes to shoot through. The English burrow in the ground like pigs.

Of course this was called fortification. (Modern tactics for modern day soldiers) Blood River was a fortified position)
Back to top Go down
 
Lord Chelmsford made this a famous quote just before the invasion of Zululand.
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM  :: GENERAL DISCUSSION AREA-
Jump to: