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PostSubject: ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE   ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE EmptyTue Sep 28, 2010 2:05 pm

Been in the family since issue. Original condition. Great uncle who served in G company 2nd/24th as private. Never sold or seen in public display.

Very reluctant to see it go but financial pressure to sell.

Currently taking advice on how to proceed.
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PostSubject: Re: ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE   ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE EmptyTue Sep 28, 2010 3:34 pm

Im probably going to take a hammering on this.
I dont know of any G company suvivors, ergo how can one have earned a casualtiy medal.

Willing to be proved wrong though

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PostSubject: Re: ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE   ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE EmptyTue Sep 28, 2010 5:00 pm

He did not survive. Depends on the definition of casuality in this context. Maybe I am wrong. He certainly died at Isandhlwana.
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PostSubject: Re: ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE   ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE EmptyTue Sep 28, 2010 6:02 pm

Hi dog2ed

Could you let us know the name of your relative.

Many thanks
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PostSubject: Re: ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE   ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE EmptyTue Sep 28, 2010 9:33 pm

I do not wish to reveal his name at present. He is listed in the silver wreath and Brecon museum has inspected it..
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PostSubject: Re: ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE   ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE EmptyWed Sep 29, 2010 1:22 am

I have changed my mind after reading the Thomas Thomas thread.tonight!

His name was Private David Davis 25B 1414. Inscribed as Pte D Davis 2/24th foot. He was from Ystalyfera, a small village in the Upper Swansea Valley., South Wales.

Thomas Thomas was also from Ystalyfera and his number was 1415! At the end of the letter extract he relates the death of David Davi(e)s to his Aunt and Uncle in Ystalyfera. They must have known each other and may have attested in Brecon on the same day. 7/6/77.
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PostSubject: Isandlwana Casualty Medal   ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE EmptyWed Sep 29, 2010 3:15 am

Hi dog2ed.
If I was selling an Isandlwana Casualty campaign Medal I would proceed through an authorised Auction House .
Spink , Dix Noonan Webb and Bosley's etc etc . The going rate seems to be in the region of 7,000 - 7,500 pds.
The more paperwork ( provenance ) you have the better . Hope this helps .
cheers 90th.
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PostSubject: Re: ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE   ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE EmptyWed Sep 29, 2010 6:49 am

I knew I was going to take a hammering
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PostSubject: Re: ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE   ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE EmptyWed Sep 29, 2010 8:17 pm

The South Africa General Service Medal '1877-79' was issued to ALL thoes men who served - weather they survived or not.

Next of Kin were issued the medals to thoes that were killed at Isandlwana in the early - mid 1880's. All these medals were engraved specific to the recipient on the rim. Needless to say that SA medals named to men killed at Isandlwana are highly sought after and very valuable.

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PostSubject: Re: ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE   ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 2:17 am

Effects claimed by his father. This medal was issued on 22/9/1881. According to "The Silver Wreath".


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PostSubject: Re: ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE   ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 7:04 pm

Hi dog2ed

Welcome to the forum.

It is great to see that a medal like yours is still in that family, it is a shame that due to financial pressure that you feel the need to sell it.

The medal would be a grand prize for someone who purchases it and it has written history which can be linked to it.

All the best with getting the best price for the medal.

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PostSubject: Re: ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE   ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 8:41 pm

Thank you 1879 Graves,

You seem to be amind of useful info on this board and i was wondering if you had any info on Thomas Thomas 1415. I am trying to trace him via geneology sites and trying to trace the original letter if it still exists. The segment of the letter published in the newspaper finishes with David Davis has been killed......I would obviously love to read it all! (even if it was in Welsh and of poor quality ink!! An age. DOB etc would be great.

Living in hope!

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PostSubject: Re: ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE   ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 9:08 pm

Hi dog2ed

The first thing you need to do is the find the original Newspaper article to see if there was anything else in the article. I think it was published in the North Wales Express, April 1879.

I do not have any further information on Thomas Thomas at the moment, but I will have a dig around.

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PostSubject: Re: ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE   ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE EmptySun Oct 03, 2010 3:18 am

My current goal is to track down the original letter. It may still exist. I would like to be able to publish the full letter unedited even if it is in Welsh. It has probably not been seen by the war historians to date. Was , if it were written in the medium of Welsh, something lost in t6ranslation. Was it third person pleural? Can anyone help me to track down the whereabouts of the original letter.

Thomas was writing , in some desperation to tell his aunt and uncle that SOMETHING had happened and some young 22 yr old Ystylafera welsh lad had lost his life. Part of the motivation behind sending this letter was to convey the information that one of the citizans of this little welsh community had lost his life and brutally killed and dismembered through no falt of his own.

I remain nonjudgemental. We need information not opinions. I would urge those that seek the truth to try and help me track down this letter so that the many, mainly welsh innocent people who died so innocently and tragiacally, and their families may recieve the justice that they rightly serve.

When Thomas wrote this letter to his family I can imagine he never thought that people would be reading his words over 130 years later. He was not writing to an inquiry to a Parlimentary inquiry. Just a personal letter to his family about how he felt then. No need to protect the status of his military superiors or the regiment. or the Queen. Jusy a (maybe) heartfelt feeling of his feeelings at the time. Little was he to now that anyone else but his aunt and uncle would read his heartfelt words.


If anyone can help me trace the location of this letter please get in touch.


Yours hoping


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PostSubject: Re: ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE   ISANDHLWANA CASUALTY MEDAL FOR SALE EmptyThu Nov 25, 2010 3:57 pm

Medal now sold. Will not disclose price!
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