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I have said this elsewhere but I would like to say it again: A supreme but little noted irony about Little Bighorn vs. Isandlwana is that the Reno Court of Inquiry was held in January of 1879... and was conducting proceedings on January 22nd.  Little did the participants and spectators know that, beneath a brooding mountain in South Africa, another mustachioed Lieutenant Colonel lay dead after leading his men in a desperate last stand against overwhelming masses of warriors, dying in a manner reminicsent of the Alfred Waud drawing of Custer's death featured at the start of this thread.  

Also due to the time differences between South Africa and the RCOI's meeting location -Chicago- the drama at Rorke's Drift took place at the same time the RCOI's proceedings were plodding along. And thus while John Chard and his men fought for their lives, Little Bighorn survivors such as Charles Varnum testified as to what they saw (or thought or claimed they saw) on June 22nd, 1876, in a valley in Montana.  (This could count as another irony.  Marcus Reno and his fellow survivors felt their stand on Reno Hill was a stiff fight against high odds.  John Chard could have taught Reno a thing or two about what a stiff fight against such odds really was!)
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Custer and the Sioux, Durnford and the Zulus: Parallels in the American and British Defeats at the Little Bighorn (1876) and Isandlwana (1879)

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What's this bloke on about I wonder when he states, "Queen Victoria's redcoat troops commanded by Lieutenant Colonel Anthony W Durnford, made an equally high-handed grab for Zulu Land in South Africa" scratch

First of all, Anthony W Durnford was not a Lt Col, he was a Bvt Colonel, secondly, the men were not commanded by Colonel Durnford, they were commanded by Lt General Frederic A Thesiger (LC), and thirdly, it wasn't Colonel Durnford that was making the high-handed grab of Zulu Land, it was Sir Henry Bartle Edward Frere.

Methinks this bloke could do with reading a little history before trying to write a book, I don't see this book getting on my bookshelf No
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