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| Hi John . Great post , very interesting article . ![Idea](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_idea.png) . cheers 90th. |
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| He doe's make a very good point. A painfull duty though. |
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| Hi All
This thread can be moved into British Officers Zulu Wars 1879 as he did take part in the Zulu War of 1879.
He proceeded to Zululand as aide-de-camp to Major-General Crealock in March 1879. In May he was appointed D. A. Q. M. G. to the 1st Division. He made surveys of the routes to be taken by the Column; selected camping-grounds, etc. On the breaking up of the Division he was appointed reconnoitring officer, with the rank of D. A. Q. M. G., to Clarke’s Flying Column, and was then attached to the Mounted Infantry under Major Barrow. He surveyed and reported on the whole route followed by the Column to the Black Umvolosi, beyond Ulundi. He was present during the search for the King. He selected the route to be followed by the Column to the Middle Drift. (Brevet of Major).
Date of Birth - 22nd February 1844 First Appointment - Ensign - 61st Foot - 21st November 1862 Lieutenant - 61st Foot - 10th October 1865 Captain - Gloucestershire Regiment - 31st October 1877 Brevet Major - 29th November 1879 Major - Gloucestershire Regiment (1st Battalion) - 1st July 1881 Brevet Lieutenant-Colonel - 18th November 1882 Acting Deputy Assistant Commissariat-General, Bermuda - 18th May 1868 to 1st March 1869 D. A. Q. M. G. (Acting) Intelligence Brigade, Dublin - 14th May 1876 to 17th July 1877 Brigade Major, Aldershot - 7th February 1878 to 1st March 1879 Employed with Boundary Commission, Turkey - 12th September 1878 to 31st December 1878 Aide-de-camp to Major-General, Cape of Good Hope - 8th April 1879 to 11th May 1879 D. A. A. G., Cape of Good Hope - 12th May 1879 to 28th September 1879 D. A. A. & Q. M. G., Expeditionary Force, Egypt - 4th August 1882 to 16th October 1882 In 1873 he Passed the Examination for The Staff College. South African War - 1879 - Zulu Campaign, as D. A. Q. M. G. Mentioned in Despatches. Brevet of Major. Medal with Clasp. Afghan War - 1880 - Expedition to the Logar Valley. Medal. Egyptian Expedition - 1882 - As D. A. A. and Q. M. G. base and lines of Communication. Despatches, London Gazette, 2nd November 1882. Brevet of Lieutenant-Colonel. 4th class Osmanieh.
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| The last hours of the fatally wounded. (Don't like the sound of that) Still it must have brought comfort to them, before they departed. |
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| "Col Sir Charles Wyndham Murray KCB GCStJ (22 February 1844[1] – 1 November 1928) was a British Army officer and politician. He served as a Conservative Member of Parliament MP for Bath from 1892–1906 and as Gentleman Usher of the Scarlet Rod in the Order of the Bath from 1913 until his death.
Early life and education Charles Wyndham Murray was born on 22 February 1844, the son of Rev Thomas Boyles Murray and Helen Douglas, and was educated at Marlborough College. Rev Murray served as Prebendary of St Paul's Cathedral and is remembered there by a pair of candle holders at the main entrance which were given by Sir Murray in memory of his father.
He began his military career as an Ensign in the 61st South Gloucestershire Regiment in November 1862, promoted to Lieutenant in October 1865 and passed from Staff College in 1872. By October 1877 he was a Captain and in July 1881, a Major. During World War I, he served as military King's Messenger in France. In 1875, he was appointed Deputy-Assistant Quartermaster-General in Cork, and then moved to the Intelligence Department in Dublin. In 1878, he moved to Turkey, where he was a military attaché. During the Anglo-Zulu War, he was aide-de-camp to Major General Crealocke (1st Division), then deployed with Clarke's column on reconnaissance missions (medal and clasp). In Spring 1880, he was attached to 72nd Highlanders at Kabul (staff), became orderly officer to General Thomas Durand Baker, taking part in the Logar Valley expedition of May–June 1880. In 1882, he was involved in the Egyptian war, as Deputy Assistant Adjutant and Quartermaster-General on the base and lines of communication; he was present at Tel-el-Kebir, gaining the Khedive's Star and 4th Class Osminieh. During 1884-85, he took part in the Bechuanaland operations. He retired from the service in 1890. He was elected Conservative MP for Bath 1892-1906 and was a member of Carlton and Army and Navy Clubs. His appointments included Chairman of the Japan Society from 1913 to 1918, and he held the Order of the Rising Sun; Gentleman Usher of the Scarlet Rod in the Order of the Bath (1913), and Knight of Justice of the Order of St John.
Marriage and children He married Emma Cecilia Walker in 1890. Lady Murray, as she was known, died in 1922. Their country seat was 'Culverlands' at Burghfield in Berkshire.
Death and afterward Culverlands, the former residence of Col. Sir Charles Wyndham Murray, C.B., is an 18th-century house altered and enlarged in 1879. It is a plain plastered building with a balustraded parapet and slate roofs, situated in an elevated well-wooded park, the cedars being particularly fine. The araucarias were raised from seed brought from South America by the late Thomas Bland Garland and are probably the oldest in England grown by this method. Charles W Murray also wrote a short biography of himself and there is a copy in the Reference section of the Public Library in Bath, England. Awards and honours
1891: Honourable Corps of Gentlemen at Arms[3] 1902: Companion of the Order of the Bath 1905: knighted 1917: Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath[4] 1927: Bailiff Grand Cross of the Order of St John Khedive's Star Order of Osminieh 4th class Order of the Rising Sun. [
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| I assume this is the same chap ??? . From the Forsyth Roll 21st Hussars Wyndham W.G.C. Medal with 1879 Clasp . From Mackinnon & Shadbolt , Lt Wyndham , W.G.C. 21st Hussars , Embarked for Natal with the KDG'S in Feb 1879 , and served with the Regt during the war ; subsequently in Baker Russells Flying Column . Cheers 90th. |
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| I don't believe it's the same guy. Take a look at the Brecon County Times, April 24, 1924. A retired Lieut. Col. Wyndham, formerly of the 21st Hussars, wrote a series of letters in which he claimed to have led the advanced guard as a subaltern in one of the expeditions to Isandlwana, and actually recovered a Colour Staff of the 2/24th from a kraal near the battlefield. |
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| There was a Sir William Wyndam went to visit Natal in 1882, I have copies of his letters about the Prince Imperials Grave. He had a brother, a major I believe who did visit iSandlwana and drew a map of Durnfords grave. |
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| `sorry should have added the Major was 21st Hussars. |
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