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PostSubject: Cetshwayo pleaded for peace several times   Cetshwayo pleaded for peace several times EmptyFri May 15, 2009 12:27 pm

If this is true "Cetshwayo pleaded for peace several times during the British advance, but he was turned down." Does any one know why the King was turn down. And who made the decision on the British side to turn down these pleads.
If excepted many life’s on both side could have been saved. And at what stage of the war were the pleads made. Before or after Isandlwana. Or both.
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PostSubject: Re: Cetshwayo pleaded for peace several times   Cetshwayo pleaded for peace several times EmptySat May 16, 2009 10:49 am

Cetewayo had ample opportunity for peace,before the invasion commenced. He did ask for a peace settlement but even then he would not comply to the terms.
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PostSubject: Re: Cetshwayo pleaded for peace several times   Cetshwayo pleaded for peace several times EmptySat May 16, 2009 6:54 pm

Extract from a Letter from Chelmsford dated 3 March 1879.

Messengers have arrive from Cetewayo at Krantztop asking for peace and saying that our fighting against each other has been quite a mistake! I hope to give his answer next week by sending a column forward to Eksowe. Sir B. Frere in not prepared to approve of any reply but that of unconditional surrender and General disarmament, coupled with the conditions already laid down.

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PostSubject: Re: Cetshwayo pleaded for peace several times   Cetshwayo pleaded for peace several times EmptySat May 16, 2009 7:53 pm

Chelmsford or Frere would not have excepted peace in any form, until they had given the British troops the pay back opportunity for Isandlwana.
In some of the books I have read Chelmsford keeps up the stakes in fines upon the Zulu king.
His popularity among the British public would have gone down hill rapidly. Both Chelmsford and Frere needed a victory even if it meant not waiting for Worsley.
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